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Post by Silver on Oct 20, 2021 21:14:05 GMT 1
Plus adding Celery Seeds to the "what's in" list per deepfriednew101's instruction that I should not consider removing them: Salt MSG White Pepper Black Pepper Coriander Ginger Sage Savory Caraway Celery Seed Any others? |
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Post by flg on Oct 20, 2021 21:48:23 GMT 1
What I notice with caraway in referring to a spice handbook from around the late 30's. It was used in all the formula for summer sausage making. Which also include Dill and Tumeric. But only in 1 or 2 other sausage recipes and at a level less than 3% of the total spices. It is not listed in any formula for stuffing. If CHS claimed that KFC used ingredients from sausage and stuffing making then for me caraway is an outlier based on these formula.
Not to say it wasn't. But as of now my list is too long of more than highly probable's
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Post by Silver on Oct 21, 2021 0:44:10 GMT 1
I don't find any reference that lists eugenol as a constituent of Caraway Seeds. So one or more eugenol sources would still be required if Caraway is used.
Clove
Allspice
Star-Anise
Tarragon
Others...
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Post by Silver on Oct 22, 2021 16:57:16 GMT 1
Now we can add Allspice and Mace, and earlier I had missed that Marjoram was in..
Salt
MSG
White Pepper (1)
Black Pepper (1)
Coriander (2)
Ginger (3)
Sage (4)
Savory (5)
Caraway (6)
Celery Seed (7)
Allspice (8)
Mace (9)
Marjoram (10)
Is the hint coming through strong enough whereby to declare Nutmeg as #11?
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Post by Silver on Oct 22, 2021 17:00:37 GMT 1
Oops, I also had earlier missed Thyme, that makes 11, but in no particular order as to weight (yet).
Salt
MSG
White Pepper (1)
Black Pepper (1)
Coriander (2)
Ginger (3)
Sage (4)
Savory (5)
Caraway (6)
Celery Seed (7)
Allspice (8)
Mace (9)
Marjoram (10)
Thyme (11)
There you have it, the original 11 H&S.
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Post by Silver on Oct 22, 2021 17:20:23 GMT 1
Guess time: Tentative Pressure Fried Chicken Recipe #1  |
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Post by Silver on Oct 22, 2021 19:06:28 GMT 1
I just munched some Caraway seeds. They taste just like Rye Bread. No taste of Anise/Licorice that I can tell. Likely that means they have little to no eugenol.
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Post by Silver on Oct 22, 2021 19:08:03 GMT 1
Our Caraway seeds (as for a lot of our spices) are likely quite old. But they are whole seeds. Not a lot of flavor overall. Perhaps that means more are required rather than less.  Edit: Of course it could mean its time to toss them out and buy fresh. |
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Post by flg on Oct 22, 2021 22:32:59 GMT 1
I think there may be a fine point in what "has" been in KFC. What are key ingredients that have been main stays in KFC forever more or less. And what is in it in the time frame you are cloning. Everything listed on all the forms may have been in it at one time.
Sorry I don't believe caraway seeds are in it today's or have been for sometime if at all. I just can't find in looking at it's taste etc. where it may fit, what role does it play, what does/could it replace on the list if it had too.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Oct 23, 2021 16:02:29 GMT 1
Caraway Its flavor has a nutty, bittersweet sharpness with a hint of citrus, pepper, and anise.
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