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Post by Silver on Aug 22, 2021 15:35:21 GMT 1
Based upon the 'Glen and Friend's' final episode #10 YouTube video, I've speculated as to what a mix might be like when based upon the order of ingredients which Glen presented within that episode, for which he stated that the ingredients were given to him in descending order by weight, and that he didn't know the weights, plus he didn't know the position/weight for the MSG. My speculation (I.E., guess) looks like this:  NOTE: My guess as to the MSG is based upon plain MSG. If you are using IMP/GMP enhanced MSG, I'd guess that you should use about 1/3 of what I'm guessing for plain MSG. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 18:52:33 GMT 1
Deepfriednew101, I was just wondering, what would be your go-to-recipe? We've been discussing a lot of things, talked about spices etc. You must be trying to recreate the recipe for quite some time now, given the knowledge and experience you have. Where do you see yourself, percentage wise. This would also be a question for chickenmeister. Did you succeed with your recreation attempts and spendings on spices? I don't want to sound arrogant, but it didn't take a lot of time for me after all. I spent more time on analysing photographs than actually frying and tasting. From day one I worked with excel sheets, diagrams and milligram scales to monitor everything. This allowed me to make super quick progress and adjustments. Once I hit the 90%, it was all about finding or fine tuning the last ingredients. This is where the photographs came into play. There is no ingredient in the OR that has not yet been named or discussed here. I promise you.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Aug 23, 2021 0:58:31 GMT 1
Its all about the 1939 Spices that were available with easy and accessibility. The Key is that the proper spice amount is what kicks the Note and the use of Oil that is seasoned already and has note built into it.
I only prefer the Beef Tallow for cooking chicken or a solid Lard with citric Acid in it.
many say that the process of Pre-Dusting then Egg n Milk Warsh and final Seasoned Flour is a Double Dredge and My comment is NO ITS Pre-Dusting like a Onion Ring process.
Lets start a NEW Area For BEST RECIPES and EVERYONE POST there BEST recipe and TOP Recipe so we can ALL Trade RECENT TOP RECIPES and Recipes that are What they fell are on the Original KFC point.
I will say this that there have been some Great Great Chicken Recipes that have the KFC note.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2021 22:28:29 GMT 1
I have finally managed to purchase a bag of Grace's perfect blend. It was not perfect at all. Quite the opposite, it was a huge disappointment. It tastes like a less salty version of the corporate chicken and lacks flavour on all levels. The most expensive bag of flour and pepper I ever had.
Key ingredients such as garlic and paprika are missing completely. It tasted like a decent schnitzel breading, nothing more. Since I believe most ingredients from the Glen ad to be in the OR, this would only mean that Grace's only use tiny amounts of herbs and spices.
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Post by Silver on Oct 18, 2021 2:00:17 GMT 1
I have finally managed to purchase a bag of Grace's perfect blend. It was not perfect at all. Quite the opposite, it was a huge disappointment. It tastes like a less salty version of the corporate chicken and lacks flavour on all levels. The most expensive bag of flour and pepper I ever had. Key ingredients such as garlic and paprika are missing completely. It tasted like a decent schnitzel breading, nothing more. Since I believe most ingredients from the Glen ad to be in the OR, this would only mean that Grace's only use tiny amounts of herbs and spices. That's a huge disappointment. Glen seemed to think it came close enough to bring an end to his video series on KFC. But I believe he covered himself with a statement that Grace's blended with 99-X might get you even closer to the mark. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2021 12:30:53 GMT 1
Yes, Silver. I think he wanted to be kind and promote the product, yet knew it wasn't really it so he advised to throw in some 99-XX. Maybe they both complement each other after judicial reduction of ingredients on both ends. Who knows. But I knew something must be wrong the moment he said that this blend had been sold in chicken shops all over the UK, and that we "probably would have had the proper OR" in these places. This cannot be true. People would go nuts and do pilgrimages if only one of these high street chicken shops used such a superb KFC blend. It would also be hard to believe that the Corp would allow small immigrant run chicken shops to use the OR whilst they themselves gradually cut down seasoning.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Oct 18, 2021 16:32:51 GMT 1
the extra 99X would bring the Herb and Spice amount higher where it should be
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Post by Silver on Oct 18, 2021 16:56:55 GMT 1
the extra 99X would bring the Herb and Spice amount higher where it should be Some KFC restaurants apparently admitted to routinely practicing what they specifically referred to as "zinging", and apparently many who adopted this practice witnessed increased business volume as a consequence of said zinging. Zinging is the practice of adding more than the 26 ounces. And (until the lawsuit) Marion-Kay 99-X was often being used not exclusively, but rather specifically to "zing" the 26 ounce bag, and apparently most typically at an amount of 6 ounces. Perhaps as a means to alleviate or mitigate this practice of franchises going outside of corporate (while awaiting the consequence of legal action whereby to cease and desist the practice) KFC at one brief juncture apparently introduced and offered their very own 32 ounce herb & spice bag (per some internet sources). So if you want to zing your personal blend, targeting 16 grams to 200 grams of flour, or 32 grams to 400 grams of flour might just be the ticket. |
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Post by Silver on Oct 18, 2021 17:05:14 GMT 1
When Glen stated that the best bet might be some blend of Grace's and 99-X he may have been hearkening back to the days when some franchisees were using MK's 99-X specifically and exclusively to "zing" the 26 ounce bag.
There may never have been a juncture wherein franchises used exclusively 99-X. This would in and of itself relieve MK of any need to directly clone the secret recipe, such that at some distant juncture 99-X was different than it is now. I.E., the potential exists that 99-X has never had to, or been demanded to change its formula. Yet at the same time it was perhaps from the very onset merely formulated to zing, and not to clone and thereby replace the OR mixture...
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Post by Silver on Oct 18, 2021 17:17:48 GMT 1
Zinging would also zing the salt level. Per the MK website, 99-X contains:
So for home level recipe 'zinging' it may behoove you to concentrate foremost upon boosting your MSG, white and black pepper, salt, sage, and coriander levels.
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