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Post by smallgree on Mar 21, 2024 4:22:45 GMT 1
Jigsaw Puzzle, 100% or 100g - 3-19-24. Capitals are not in vials:
MSG WHITE PEPPER BLACK PEPPER
1tomatoC, 2onionG, celery(7vial)H, GARLIC, 3ItalianB.
4gingerF, 5tarragonD, 6bay leafJ.
8corianderA, 9allspiceE, 10mustardI, 11cardamomK. _______________________________________________________
20 - Ginger, tarragon, bay leaf. (15-3-2).
13 - Tomato, Italian seasoning, garlic, onion, celery. (5-3-2-2-1).
10 - Coriander, allspice, mustard, cardamom. (3-3-3-1).
57 - Msg/salt (3-1), white pepper, black pepper. (20-20-17).
I mix everything a certain way, which I have posted. I use a certain amount of salt, but I ain't going to debate it. I have a few things yet to try, and the tomato I use is found in the Mexican market. I'll make my own later. Actually it should read tomato soup. This is my basic formula. All the pieces are joined.
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Post by smallgree on Mar 24, 2024 3:31:15 GMT 1
Wings tomorrow.
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Post by smallgree on Mar 25, 2024 20:41:32 GMT 1
Good wings. Better crust with 00 flour. Used new oil and it proves the oil should retain some of the seasoning flavor. I'm still going to try all of these ingredients that others propose, plus a few of my own. I've still got toasted sesame seeds in mind, as they have a powerful taste and aroma. I'm not putting cumin away at this time. As for the vials, the dark ones, the light ones, and H and J are the vials to juggle. Doesn't take much to sample the combinations of herbs.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Mar 25, 2024 21:18:38 GMT 1
It proved that new Oil should retain some of the seasoning ?
Did the New Oil give you a Aroma ? Did it take some of the seasoning from Your Taste of chicken ?
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Post by smallgree on Mar 25, 2024 23:14:03 GMT 1
With all of the dissension and animosity I've seen on these forums lately, I'd like to demonstrate, openly, how I experiment with ingredients. Just now, looking at the vials, I took a pinch of coriander seeds, clove, allspice, fenugreek seeds, cumin seeds, brown mustard seeds, cardamom seeds, and a double pinch of ground ginger. I put a little msg/salt mixture into this and ground with pestle and mortar.
Then I took some dehydrated onion, granular garlic, celery seeds, Italian seasoning, tarragon and bay leaf, with the msg/salt mixture, and did the same.
Then I took a better amount of black pepper, white pepper and the msg/salt mix and did the same. To use larger black pepper particles, a put some more crushed pepper into the mix afterwards.
Each of these mixes are now sitting, and I will mix them all together later tonight. This all took, conception to creation, about 30 minutes. CHS supposedly developed his OR in a day or two. This is not rocket science. The clues are far and few between. I wish I had more clues rather than speculation. I still recall the original taste, and time is running out.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Mar 26, 2024 14:11:49 GMT 1
Willie You Want Clues
You are correct Grind the Items separate and add separate into the flour Do NOT blend them together
The Flour Must be Sifted Prior to the Adding the Spices Herbs and Salt (fine) on your First Mix
Salt Pepper
6 spices 5 Herbs
Celery Garlic Onion
Brine Water Tarragon Vinegar Pickling Spice Chicken Stock
milk and Egg Warsh Contains Salt and Pepper separate from the Recipe
Add your Home made Chili seasoning into the Mix
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Post by smallgree on Mar 27, 2024 0:39:30 GMT 1
Heck, this last recipe attempt is so good I had to write it down the best way I could, while I still remembered it. Wouldn't it be ironic if this was the one, after a knee jerk reaction, after years of experimenting?
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Post by smallgree on Mar 27, 2024 3:38:06 GMT 1
I toasted sesame seeds, smashed a few and mixed just a smidgen with two of my mixes sitting around. Just a little really kicks up a mix. I'm a bit surprised. Vial G looks somewhat like lightly toasted sesame seeds, which of course would toast further in hot oil. In that case, onion would have to move outside the vials. This is all based on fenugreek in vial F. But then, what happens to ginger? I have seen photos of young ginger, which is green. i.imgur.com/hFVtFaV.jpg
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Post by smallgree on Mar 27, 2024 22:40:18 GMT 1
I'm convinced that early on, CHS got the umami taste from tomato powder, whether separate, or in dried soup. Somewhere along the way, the shift to msg, which is a stronger source of umami, allowed KFC to reduce the size of the seasoning bags and could explain why they went from reddish, to greenish and later grayish (extracts). I've yet to see any positive proof, one way or another, how the use of msg developed. Both shouldn't be used together.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Mar 27, 2024 23:00:30 GMT 1
The Original Seasoning was more Reddish color and it even became the issue for Oil deteriorate much quicker when they changed to Vegetable oil from Beef Fat Tallow
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