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Sept 4, 2022 18:14:08 GMT 1
Post by Silver on Sept 4, 2022 18:14:08 GMT 1
Per Wikipedia:
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Sept 4, 2022 20:22:14 GMT 1
Post by flg on Sept 4, 2022 20:22:14 GMT 1
It appears that cardamom is a herb. Even though most call it a spice. What is your definition of a herb? I will search multiple sources on the internet to see how they are being classified. And go with the majority on it. I would expect Cardamom to be a spice. Apparently others classify it a herb. Which simply means, open for discussion and interpretation.
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Sept 4, 2022 23:09:02 GMT 1
Post by Silver on Sept 4, 2022 23:09:02 GMT 1
I will search multiple sources on the internet to see how they are being classified. And go with the majority on it. I would expect Cardamom to be a spice. Apparently others classify it a herb. Which simply means, open for discussion and interpretation. It's when we must resort to cherry picking (aka, the application of confirmation bias) as to what 'is' an herb and what 'isn't' an herb that the futility of chasing the vials becomes more openly apparent. Personally I'm chock full of bias, and don't need to introduce even more of it.
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Sept 5, 2022 14:44:53 GMT 1
Post by Silver on Sept 5, 2022 14:44:53 GMT 1
If clove is a shriveled up and dried flower, then it appears to be more technically correct to classify it as an herb than as a spice.
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Sept 5, 2022 17:24:30 GMT 1
Post by deepfriednew101 on Sept 5, 2022 17:24:30 GMT 1
My suggestion would be reviewing old information from the 1930/1940 for Herb vs Spice as we are attempting a 1939/1940 aspect item and color of Law statues regulations and Tax codes have altered the meaning compared to the 1939/1940 era, and FDA 1905 changed drastically in 1985?
Only my opinion and thought in this matter?
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Sept 12, 2022 11:11:49 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2022 11:11:49 GMT 1
This is very helpful. According to the Canadian Spice Association: "Historically, “spices” referred to the tropical aromatics only, while “herbs” (urbs, not herb’s) meant specifically the leaves and seeds of certain temperate-zone plants. While those distinctions are still used, “spice” has come also to mean the whole family of dried plant seasonings, including spices, herbs, blends and dehydrated vegetables." An Example: SpicesCoriander Ginger Allspice Cloves Mace "Herbs"Sage Savory Thyme Marjoram Cayenne Garlic
www.canadianspiceassociation.com/spice-industry/322-2/spice-definitions/
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Sept 12, 2022 11:18:28 GMT 1
Post by Silver on Sept 12, 2022 11:18:28 GMT 1
Not that it matters, but I call them 'erbs'. Likely sounds much the same as 'urbs' when pronounced.
Wikipedia states that herbs are leaves or flowers. I would place Cayenne and Garlic into the 'Spices' category.
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Sept 12, 2022 11:23:08 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2022 11:23:08 GMT 1
Not that it matters, but I call them 'erbs'. Likely sounds much the same as 'urbs' when pronounced. Wikipedia states that herbs are leaves or flowers. I would place Cayenne and Garlic into the 'Spices' category. The question is not what they are, rather what the understanding was historically. I am rather sure there was no Wikipedia in 1930
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Sept 12, 2022 11:57:10 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2022 11:57:10 GMT 1
The Spice Cookbook from 1964 confirms above definition. On p. 63 they describe that spice would be the catch-all term form spices, seeds, herbs, and vegetable seasonings. “True spices" though, "are parts of plants that usually grow in the tropics".
So botanically correct or not, rather not, this seemed to be a common definition. Can make life a bit easier if we do not have to squeeze 6 proper herbs into the 11.
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Sept 12, 2022 15:21:50 GMT 1
Post by deepfriednew101 on Sept 12, 2022 15:21:50 GMT 1
I have in the Past Printed the FDA Break Down of Spices and Herbs from 1930. I Do Not recall what tread it was posted under currently There were some Spice companies who Printed the Information also on Tins
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