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Post by deepfriednew101 on Jun 13, 2022 14:33:51 GMT 1
No I would NOT agree and would suggest Other items may have been used to replace Mustard
Turmeric was used BY KFC as a Mustard replacer.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2022 14:57:16 GMT 1
I will stand on two Points that have been around Before many of YOU have ever thought about cooking KFC Chicken the 1974 Esquire Taste Test I know many seem to want to discredit what they said: BUT THEN IF you challenge and discredit there Taste test then ALL posted Independent Taste Test From the Top to Bottom of Everyone Posting is NON VALUED or Irrelevant. Just so you are aware when CHS spoke about the Cinnamon and Ginger He was always running down NEW AGE KFC and speaking about His Chicken YES it Could have been NOT related to other recipes BUT it might have NOT Cinnamon is used in many Spice Blends from Pumpkin Spice, Apple Spice Blend, Cake Mixes and BBQ Spices and I will say they seemed to make the Blends work and NOT over power the Blends I will agree its a Hard individual item to fit into recipes BUT think a Lower level amount when mixed with a higher amount of Mustard or Ginger may blend In our current chicken we are throwing EVERY OLD amount level out the window and basing it on PURE Spice Taste ORGANIC and some of the most powerful spices First of all, there was little consensus amongst your "experts". This alone disproves whatever you are trying to establish here. Instead of focusing on the one item they would all agree on, I'd rather look at the plenty ones they disagree on and conclude that they cannot all be correct. If you bring your car to four different garages and they all disagree in their inspection, you would not consider them to be trustworthy experts. Secondly, the "analysis" was published in a men's lifestyle magazine amidst celebs, cars and cleavages. Not my go-to-source for cookery to be honest. Thirdly, your experts are no experts in the field of spices or fast food as I have explained before. So please, let's move on. I am tired.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Jun 13, 2022 15:45:45 GMT 1
I guess they are as Valid as a Expert in the field of Spice and Herbs as Anyone.
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Post by Silver on Jun 13, 2022 15:53:29 GMT 1
No I would NOT agree and would suggest Other items may have been used to replace Mustard Turmeric was used BY KFC as a Mustard replacer. If Mace still crashes and burns when added at a greatly reduced quantity, I will try replacing it with Turmeric.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2022 22:18:35 GMT 1
The import of Coriander Seeds in 1930 is well documented in the Tariff Act of 1930. I agree it surely wasn't a common item, but we cannot say on the one hand that CHS was a spice master and on the other that he must have been ignorant of Coriander Seeds. I am sure that if he wanted to try or add Coriander Seeds to his recipe he could have gotten ahold of it. Sooner or later. Coriander Seeds are even mentioned in the Bible. It is possible that Coriander Seeds replaced Caraway. But has anyone already asked why? Can't really be lower costs? Also, personally, if the story of adding Coriander much later is true, then it would still be way before my time. So the only KFC I have ever eaten as a rather young lad will be the coriander seed version I guess, which makes it less appealing to me. I have replaced my Coriander with Caraway in recipes and it worked fine. No revelation though. But I must admit it was one of the few spices I only have preground. Will get some whole seeds and compare again. For my combination of herbs and spices caraway was by far the biggest revelation i have had. I don't think they replaced coriander with caraway because i can still detect it in modern O.R. Caraway is one of the distinctive flavours in the O.R and is one of the heaviest spices after ginger. Caraway is very distinctive in it's flavour and what it does to the note. You cannot replace caraway with coriander, completely different spices imo. Chickenman So if I understand correctly, you have omitted Coriander completely and replaced it with Caraway? Not using Caraway and Celery Seeds then I assume?
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Post by Chickenman on Jun 14, 2022 8:19:00 GMT 1
For my combination of herbs and spices caraway was by far the biggest revelation i have had. I don't think they replaced coriander with caraway because i can still detect it in modern O.R. Caraway is one of the distinctive flavours in the O.R and is one of the heaviest spices after ginger. Caraway is very distinctive in it's flavour and what it does to the note. You cannot replace caraway with coriander, completely different spices imo. Chickenman So if I understand correctly, you have omitted Coriander completely and replaced it with Caraway? Not using Caraway and Celery Seeds then I assume? Yes, i have replaced coriander completely and replaced it with caraway. As of right now i am not using celery seeds, i might try a recipe with caraway and celery seeds for my next attempt.
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Post by flg on Jun 14, 2022 17:12:42 GMT 1
There is always the possibility that it once was Celery Seed and Caraway and then became Coriander and Caraway. If Celery Seed was used I think it may have been 2x that of coriander.
I'm pretty confident in the most of the rest of the ingredients I am currently using. But this block is the sticking point for me. I'll have to get some fresh caraway seed soon.
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Post by jseo12 on Jun 20, 2022 4:16:54 GMT 1
I believe clove is part of the original recipe. Maybe use 1/8 Tsp in 2 cups of flour? Also, marjoram is more likely than oregano since oregano isn't well known in the past. I also think cardamom is present because it's known in one of KFC ads picture.
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Post by Silver on Jun 20, 2022 10:21:40 GMT 1
I believe clove is part of the original recipe. Maybe use 1/8 Tsp in 2 cups of flour? Also, marjoram is more likely than oregano since oregano isn't well known in the past. I also think cardamom is present because it's known in one of KFC ads picture. Yes, use 1/8 TSP (0.26 grams) of ground clove in 2 cups (260 grams) of flour. But for that quantity of clove I would not additionally have Allspice in the recipe. Instead, I would use Mace, Nutmeg, and Cinnamon. My best tasting recipe to date (my As Cooked Recipe #17) didn't use any oregano derivative spice at all. Don't place faith in any ad picture. Even if it is from KFC.
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Post by flg on Jun 20, 2022 12:50:22 GMT 1
I believe clove is part of the original recipe. Maybe use 1/8 Tsp in 2 cups of flour? Also, marjoram is more likely than oregano since oregano isn't well known in the past. I also think cardamom is present because it's known in one of KFC ads picture. I still think the OR was based on a commercial poultry seasoning. So I agree, it would be marjoram before oregano. Marjoram seems to be an ingredient that shows up in various poultry seasonings.
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