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Post by Silver on Aug 1, 2021 13:28:32 GMT 1
Recall that ~3.22 grams of MSG is ~ the "sodium equivalent" of regular salt (NaCl), and reduce salt in accordance to this ratio when bolstering MSG.
Molecular weight of monosodium glutamate monohydrate = 187 Molecular Weight of NaCl (salt) = 58
187/58 = 3.224...
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Post by Silver on Aug 1, 2021 13:33:44 GMT 1
I.E., for every 3.224 grams of MSG added, regular salt should be reduced by 1 gram if maintaining the same sodium level is the goal.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Aug 1, 2021 14:59:38 GMT 1
KFC makes argument the Recipe is not Patented or Trade Marked BUT the intellectual Property is part of there who existence and by there TM all other aspects that its also protected.
The key fact is that KFC a Billion Dollar Corporation, which charges EACH and EVERY franchiser a set amount and or % amount that goes to Legal fees, has Millions to defend, Argue, and Fight any Court Battle they want and in a world where Money Talks and all else is Chicken S#!t, KFC can throw a few 100,000.00 or 1,000,000.00 at a issue and its all a cost of business dealing to protect and limit liability or Business Loss.
Every time they win its another feather in there Cap and something they can use against the Defending Litigant, who usually does not have a Pot to P!$$ in let alone throw money to a lawyer to fight the case.
Why Did CHS WIN each and every Lawsuit against KFC Corporation Brown & Massey is VERY simple. They Broke Contract Law, They were NOT to Change, Alter, or Deviate from the Original Formula Recipe, and Cost is NOT a excuse to change the recipe and the situation for changing the recipe because shortage of Spice. CHS could have argued he went through Wars, Famine, Drought, and much worse and did NOT change the recipe. KFC Corporation could NEVER have WON in a Million years BUT CHS knew that. There is NO other person or Party that could defend the argument that the agreement in the contract was a Binding agreement and the SHOT GUN Clause that many used back in the day, could have causes a void Sale. KFC could NOT afford that situation. If CHS would have lost in court he would have beat the crap out of Massy in the court room. CHS hated Massy and had NO respect for him. Massey wanted Brown to Fire CHS on more then 5 different times.
NOW when you look at situations like the Settler's finding the Recipe which Tommy argued in court, KFC was full of Crap what stuffing recipe has Ginger in the recipe says lots to the case. BUT in weeks Settler was Driving a Brand new Truck and then worked for the Corporation with a 100,000.00 a year public relation Job, and a NEW contract for NON Disclosure of KFC information or OTHERWISE.
Marion-Kay Bill S. had NO leg to stand on once CHS was dead. When CHS was alive HE had Rights to Canada, Utah, Montana, Florida, and the UK. CHS could USE any Spices he wanted as LONG as HE proved it was the Original Recipe, and he could USE ANY supplier for the supply of the Spices. BUT OTHER franchiser DID NOT have the same right. The Problem was any other state surrounding the area which used Marion Kay Chicken Spice had a BAD chicken and people complained so they started using the 99X Chicken Seasoning and when 300 Locations started to USE the Spice KFC corporation was made. BUT KFC corporation DID NOT say OH CHS had the right to use those spice in ALL the Locations he HAD control over Corporation just said that 300 Locations were using the NON authorized Spices which they had NO quality control over. GAME OVER for Marion-Kay. NOW Marion-Kay either does Damage Control OR Pay potential Cost in a court loss. They agreed to ONLY use 5 items in the 99x
There is a saying If you are NOT Erin Brockovich taking on the BIG corporation or have the guts of a Lorraine Bobet to the cut the B@lls off in a fight you have a uphill battle against a so called Giant.
The issue also becomes there is NO Judge who will order KFC to bring the Original recipe into a court. BUT Corporation brings existing court case presidents with there fight
It is a recipe yes, I agree there is NO control over the recipe. BUT KFC argues otherwise.
KFC has admitted there is a recipe that has the potential of being correct but it has NOT been proven.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Aug 4, 2021 4:28:17 GMT 1
I was sent this recipe and asked to share it with people They used more season salts in different spices
I will try the recipe in some wings Thursday
KFC Blend
• 2 cup All-Purpose Flour • 2 tbsp Kosher Salt • 1 ½ tsp Celery Salt • 1 ½ tsp Garlic Powder or Garlic Salt 2 tsp • 4 tsp Onion Salt • 1 tsp Black Pepper Fine • 1 tsp Black Pepper Medium Grind • 1 tsp White Pepper Fine • 1 tsp White Pepper Medium Grind
• 1 ½ tsp Ground Allspice • 1 ½ tsp Dried Basil • 2 tsp Chili Powder • 2 tsp Coriander • 1 ½ tsp Ginger • 1 ½ tsp Dried Marjoram • 1 ½ tsp Dried Oregano • 1 ½ tsp Dried Sage • 1 ½ tsp Savory • 2 tsp Paprika • 2 tsp Thyme
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Post by flg on Aug 4, 2021 13:29:17 GMT 1
Interesting recipe Deepfried101. Interested in your cooking results
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Post by flg on Aug 4, 2021 13:56:14 GMT 1
Last night we stopped of at our local KFC. It's been a long time since we had done so. They don't make good chicken there and it's always been a greasy mess often in the warmers too long. This location alone drives me to want to try to get back to the chicken from the 70's.
Few things I noticed:
1 - There just wasn't any real "taste" to the skin. Salt obviously and Pepper (albeit NOT as much pepper flavor as I remember from years ago) and not as much pepper flavor as I tasted in my last attempt. I am convinced with the right Salt, Pepper and cooking you could get 95% of what I tasted. 0.150 grams of anything into 200g flour isn't making a difference in that product.
2 - It was brined, juicy and the meat had a good taste. I need to put more effort into to brining. The couple pieces I had were actually pretty fresh for a change.
3 - I had 2 pieces that I couldn't tell you what they should had been. No kidding part thighs maybe but they looked like oversized wing drumlets. But that's were it got interesting. In the folds of what ever this may have been I found a good size glob of uncooked flour mixture. Pale grey mash if you will.
This is were you could taste the flavors. I could taste the black pepper and at a level i would expect. However only 4 other flavors stood out. nutmeg, cloves (could be Allspice and likely is for cost), garlic and cinnamon. The cinnamon was the lesser of them but was there for me. Garlic also didn't stand out as much as the "Allspice" flavor. There was also a heat not all from pepper so perhaps ginger played a key.
In all honesty if I didn't "know" some of the other ingredients like Coriander and Ginger I would be looking at Salt, WP, BP, nutmeg, cloves or Allspice and then garlic and cinnamon. Done right I'm at 98% of what I ate last night from KFC.
So this got me thinking back to the recipe weight Glen's video shows and his comments about Grace's ingredients. And after the Peppers he listed Allspice as the next heaviest ingredient Grace's used. I didn't believe that should or could be right. I will say now that I buy it. From the tasting of the greyish lump of flour in my chicken from KFC. Allspice would have been the next heaviest ingredient followed by garlic and cinnamon.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Aug 4, 2021 15:52:06 GMT 1
Garlic and Onion are higher on the scales weight and remember Garlic can give a heat in some granulated powders also
Allspice also was used to replace Cinnamon, Clove, Nutmeg so either way a person gets a similar taste.
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Post by Silver on Aug 20, 2021 16:50:10 GMT 1
I'm hoping this recipe (which will be my 6th attempt, and has 5 previous actually attempted recipes plus a lot of recipe research and ideas culled from the recipes of many others more advanced in this quest standing behind it) will be the final one in my quest.
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Post by Silver on Aug 20, 2021 17:01:54 GMT 1
0.20g. of Garlic Powder could optionally be added whereby to complete the series of "by weight" triplets.
NOTE: If you are using IMP/GMP enhanced MSG, as opposed to my plain old ordinary MSG, then cut my 12g. back to only 3.5g. That will result in the classic goal of 13 grams in 200 grams of flour mix (or 26 grams in 400 grams, 26 ounces in 25 pounds, which = 400 ounces.....).
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Aug 21, 2021 19:16:57 GMT 1
I always do % amount of spice to flour and Salt a separate amount value.
I also cross reference the total combined weight of the chicken and the Flour to figure out % values.
it most instances when a person uses a Egg/Milk Warsh with pre Dust flour and second 7-10-7 Flour Press your effective coating should be 12% adhesions
the 12% coating gives a moist well coated chicken
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