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Post by deepfriednew101 on Feb 27, 2024 23:37:57 GMT 1
The Other Forum Had the 99-x Tested so they Know the ingredient's ?
Or Did they ONLY list part of the Ingredient's
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Post by Silver on Feb 28, 2024 0:22:29 GMT 1
The Other Forum Had the 99-x Tested so they Know the ingredient's ? Or Did they ONLY list part of the Ingredient's You're joking and literally jerking us now. GC and similar of such analysis instrumentation is generally rather vague (or ballpark), and can't hardly (in my opinion. having operated such equipment in chem labs as part my university studies) be definitive as to dead ringer quantitatives with respect to the myriads of flavor oils involved here. And even if it was quantitatively sound (as opposed to being quantitatively ballpark and sketchy/vague) such analysis most assuredly can't possibly point back to specifically any of what precise herbs or spices were the underlying source of any of the extant flavor and/or aroma oils, since such oils are present within multitudes of different herbs and spices, etc... And then to make matter worse, the guy who initiated the testing admitted that he didn't even think to ask the lab to search for a good number of the potentially extant critical oils to begin with. I've said a number of times that such analysis as involves such a complex system with so many oils involved and so many potential sources for each oil is a waste of time, effort, and money. |
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Post by Silver on Feb 28, 2024 0:29:31 GMT 1
It's almost a slam dunk relatively safe bet that KFC competitors have analyzed real KFC OR seasoning to the tee. And it's also a relatively safe bet that no one even at that level of financing and desire and lab equipment and wherewithal has pieced the original recipe back together thereby.
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Post by Silver on Feb 28, 2024 0:45:13 GMT 1
Every individual herb and/or spice chemical analysis which I've seen (and over the past 3 or so years I've looked at many of them) lists at least 30 to 50 or more constituents with broadly vague ranges of quantitative percentiles. No two of such analyses ever seem to look reliably alike across the board. And some look quite radically different from lab to lab and region to region and season to season. Some critical peaks are present within some analyses and some of the same are absent within other analyses of the same herb/spice. One thing that seems certain in this is that no two batches of seasoning mix are going to be the same as to their analysis results. And this of course means that no two independent lot number batches of the real deal will ever taste and/or smell exactly alike. There must realistically be a rather broad range of flavor and aroma acceptability. And early on such diversity and acceptability had to be far more evident than for today. It's a safe bet that Pete Harmon didn't have a lab with sophisticated instrumentation, and wouldn't know what to do with it even if he did, and an even safer bet that CHS would have no clue at all when presented with such instrumentation.
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Post by Silver on Feb 28, 2024 0:58:05 GMT 1
So deepfriednew101, since you have no non-disclosure agreements with Marion Kay, why don't we see you offering up a highly specific clone recipe for 99-X? I bet the answer is that you can't do it. |
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Feb 28, 2024 14:21:32 GMT 1
I have said in the Past we have a Agreement with the University who have the Equipment, to test compounds and also CFI test Items upon complaints and also verification for import.
They are obviously LIMITED to what they can Do But the equipment can Tell You exactly how many items are in a compound by separation. the items can then be tested in other locations as to the item nature.
As a mater of Fact we have some High tech equipment Microscopes and other separators' and accumulator's for compounds with full sieve shake.
99-x has more than one recipe that they used according to Bill S Marion Kay when I Met Him Who said He made a change to the 99-x after the court case ended.
Marion Kay Chicken Seasoning was the Original
99-x was the second
Claudia Seasoning was a Salt included similar version that Marion Kay makes
Grace's Perfect Blend uses a 12 Blended seasoning which is NOT the Original and Marion Kay
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Post by Silver on Feb 28, 2024 14:28:35 GMT 1
deepfriednew101, the problem isn't that you are a wealth of knowledge, but rather it is that you are a wealth of useless knowledge with respect to the goal and existence of forums such as this one. As my Dad often said: "That plus a dime might get me a good cup of coffee." (which in his day typically cost a dime)
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Post by flg on Feb 28, 2024 18:14:54 GMT 1
The man has more non-disclosures than folks working in area51. LOL
The fact the 95% of what he sells in in the public domain. Google is your friend there. The other 5% is a combination of fantasy wrapped around his childhood memories of meeting CHS once (maybe).
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crazyforchicken
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Post by crazyforchicken on Feb 28, 2024 20:41:52 GMT 1
With all the experiences he says he's had, the only tale left to tell is that he helped CHS develop the recipe.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Feb 29, 2024 15:20:55 GMT 1
flg You Have never been part of a mission or Donated Time for Great causes OTHER WISE you wouldKnow and understand how many time personal association with the Colonel and Claudia has been.
As for Non Dis-closured that comes with the more Franchises you Own and Run the More they ask for Non-disclosures. BUT then again Willie may understand that being a former lawyer.
So I guess THE rest of you see to think that Having personal associations with people who simply request and ask that People Do not talk about certain things MEANS Nothing to YOU.
I have posted More Fact based items and Photo then ALL of you added together with the exception of Willie over 4 decades. LONG before many of You even thought about making a Fried chicken.
Yet the MOS simple Thing educated that Vegetable Ingredients like Celery, Garlic, Onion ARE NOT part of the 11 secret Herbs and Spices is NOT Taken serious or Looked into.
YOU will NEVER make the K.F.C. chicken if You keep shorting the 11 Spices and Herbs (SPICES AND HERBS) is what C.H.S. called it for 20 years before NEW AGE TAKE HIS HINT Spices Dominate the 11 Spices and Herbs and then Vegetable are incorporated LAST not including the 11 Spices and Herbs,
Salt and Pepper were the Original Two items which C.H.S. used and Black pepper was added to the Milk and Egg Original
The recipe hand Written By C.H.S. is NOT just cut chicken and add it to seasoned Flour LMAO
The is a reason and purpose of the Journey to Multiple Countries with OLD C.H.S. and Claudia Person Family which is what C.H.S. called it.
K.F.C. NEW AGE CROSSED the Line with THE LAST Public comments they made and it has MANY with they broke the Last Straw attitude.
Here's a TIP for ALL YOU Know it All's
Investigate into WHY 99-x is NOT sold in Canada from a supplier. WHY is Grace's Perfect Blend NOT sold in Canada ? ASK Both respectful companies why they Have NO direct sales location In Canada ? YOU WILL LEARN some information ? OH but this may take making a telephone Call or sending a Question to THEM
HEY But None of YOU have Figured this KEY Point OUT ?
I would Tell you BUT I have a NON Disclosure with CFIA when I worked for them and was 101 Years Old BUT luck for you you can contact Them and ask questions They Have Office in N.S. and N.B. and Eastern Canada so people in Eastern Canada can Get the Answers easy
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