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Post by cman on Jan 16, 2024 21:07:12 GMT 1
Hopefully, an Egyptian culinary expert could shed light on Ananias seed, relish and water grass. I’m thinking that water grass can’t be the rare Jamaican spice but a close substitute due to cost. I cannot see dried American relish as an ingredient. Anise seed was first cultivated in Egypt: perhaps Ananias seed?
Silver, I think this list of ingredients mirrors your work on the oils from the spices and leading to the possibility of substitutions. Could you possibly re-post your 2 recipes that came close? Thnx.
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Post by smallgree on Jan 16, 2024 21:08:15 GMT 1
"No clove, no nutmeg, no mace, no allspice, no anise seed, no star-anise, no sage, no savory, no thyme, no marjoram, no oregano, no rosemary, no black pepper?, no white pepper?, etc..." Get on down that rabbit hole, but buy the cinnamon. LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2024 22:54:08 GMT 1
"No clove, no nutmeg, no mace, no allspice, no anise seed, no star-anise, no sage, no savory, no thyme, no marjoram, no oregano, no rosemary, no black pepper?, no white pepper?, etc..." Get on down that rabbit hole, but buy the cinnamon. LOL In the grip of confirmation bias and excitement, details like the total absence of Black Pepper, White Pepper or Sage are either overlooked or deemed irrelevant.
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Post by Silver on Jan 16, 2024 23:11:34 GMT 1
Hopefully, an Egyptian culinary expert could shed light on Ananias seed, relish and water grass. I’m thinking that water grass can’t be the rare Jamaican spice but a close substitute due to cost. I cannot see dried American relish as an ingredient. Anise seed was first cultivated in Egypt: perhaps Ananias seed? Silver, I think this list of ingredients mirrors your work on the oils from the spices and leading to the possibility of substitutions. Could you possibly re-post your 2 recipes that came close? Thnx. Do a search of the forum for these:
1) Recipe #17 2) Recipe #17 with Cayenne 3) Release Candidate #1
It's possible that Ananias Seed might be a corruption of Anise Seed. But not that high up in the pecking order. Being that high up on the list is a killer.
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Jan 17, 2024 0:36:55 GMT 1
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Post by cman on Jan 17, 2024 0:36:55 GMT 1
"No clove, no nutmeg, no mace, no allspice, no anise seed, no star-anise, no sage, no savory, no thyme, no marjoram, no oregano, no rosemary, no black pepper?, no white pepper?, etc..." Get on down that rabbit hole, but buy the cinnamon. LOL In the grip of confirmation bias and excitement, details like the total absence of Black Pepper, White Pepper or Sage are either overlooked or deemed irrelevant. All is not lost. The YouTube video does show 3 bags were used. One seasoning bag is in Spanish. The bag in question is partly in Arabic. It’s possible that New Age has altered part of the cooking process for the International market.
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Post by smallgree on Jan 17, 2024 0:45:59 GMT 1
Their stuff must be halal and not haram.
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Jan 17, 2024 0:47:33 GMT 1
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Post by cman on Jan 17, 2024 0:47:33 GMT 1
The bag showing the ingredients is the tumble marinade:
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Post by cman on Jan 17, 2024 1:04:06 GMT 1
Their stuff must be halal and not haram. Banned haram are usually pork and alcohol containing products. The Saudis ban a red dye - Sudan 1 used in red pepper. It’s interesting that the other 2 bags are red. I hope we didn’t inadvertently reveal a diplomatic issue. 🤫
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Post by smallgree on Jan 17, 2024 1:22:47 GMT 1
They also don't allow emulsifiers, so substitutes must be used. Some African Muslims eat rotted meat, and drink their own urine.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2024 9:14:48 GMT 1
islamqa.info/en/answers/39408/ruling-on-selling-and-using-nutmeg"The majority of scholars are of the view that it is haraam to use it in small and large quantities. Others are of the view that it is permissible to use a little of it if it is mixed with other substances." "It should noted that it is prohibited to import nutmeg – both seed and powder – into the Land of the Two Holy Mosques (i.e., Saudi Arabia) and it is permitted only to import it when it is mixed with other spices in permitted proportions, which is no more than 20%."
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