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Dec 23, 2022 17:30:16 GMT 1
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Dec 23, 2022 17:30:16 GMT 1
Have you cooked it yet ?
The seasoning mix had a Good Aroma after mixed.
This time we Vacuum sealed the Spices and Herbs in a Vacuum container until the spices and Herbs were Pulled together.
Trying out a New Vacuum Chamber Machine and wanted to try a 2 Spice Bags Spice Bag which were vacuum seal to see if the Oils blend more to each other or if there is any difference ?
We Do have 2 Identical Bags NON Vacuum sealed in industrial bag Ziploc style Bags as the comparison.
Previous experiments with the Vacuum sealer was be Dry Brined the Chicken and Vacuum sealed the chicken for 24 Hours. It made some of the Best Inner tasting flavored chicken made. We still use it for certain items BUT not all items. ALL items we Sous Vide are in Vacuum Bags.
Our steak Sandwich steaks are all Sous Vide and Dry Brine Marinade this method speeds up our cooking time for the Steaks which are then patted Dry and seared on Open High Temp Broilers or Flames Char on open BBQ style char broiler
Chicken Sous vide is a Much more difficult item. But does work Great also. we have pre cooked chicken to a 75% temp internal cooled the chicken and seasoned floured it then Quick Hot oil Bath for crisp coating effect. It does produce great chicken also and YOU would never know it was Sous Vide first
I Do Not know if we will cook the New Recipe for appy Christmas eve or NOT
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Dec 23, 2022 17:33:35 GMT 1
Post by Silver on Dec 23, 2022 17:33:35 GMT 1
Not yet. I just dreamed it up yesterday. Call it educated dreaming... |
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1939
Dec 23, 2022 18:05:27 GMT 1
Post by deepfriednew101 on Dec 23, 2022 18:05:27 GMT 1
some of our dreamed up recipes have been deemed NIGHTMARES lol lol
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1939
Apr 9, 2023 12:00:41 GMT 1
Post by Silver on Apr 9, 2023 12:00:41 GMT 1
A proposed fresh look at circa 1939. Add 3 grams of MSG to bring it up to the franchise era.
200. Grams Cake Flour
32.0 Grams Salt
1.00 Grams Dextrose
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3.00 Grams Black Pepper (1)
2.00 Grams White Pepper (2)
2.00 Grams Basil (3)
2.00 Grams Paprika (4)
1.25 Grams Coleman's Mustard Powder (5)
1.25 Grams Ginger (6)
0.50 Grams Allspice (7)
0.375 Grams Mexican Oregano (8)
0.25 Grams Clove (9)
0.25 Grams Nutmeg (10)
0.125 Grams Thyme (11)
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1939
Apr 9, 2023 14:11:31 GMT 1
Post by flg on Apr 9, 2023 14:11:31 GMT 1
I think this is the hardest part of the journey. I think working the known ingredients from the MK variants back to the vials is doable. But going from the vials (which may not be 100%) back to 1939 will be the hardest. Unless there is no magic and the ingredients are the same with only substitutions for availability and cost.
He claims once he settled in on the original 10 he only added 1 ingredient circa 1955. So there is a possibility that no major ingredient changed between the vials and 1939.
Who knows
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1939
Apr 9, 2023 16:09:28 GMT 1
Post by deepfriednew101 on Apr 9, 2023 16:09:28 GMT 1
So KFC NEW AGE IS LYNING THAT the 11 Spices and Herbs were made in 1939 ?
Every Where KFC NEW Age is in the World they say 11 Herbs and Spices 1939
I would guess ONLY that in 1955 it would ONLY be NUMBER 12 or M.S.G. NOT a Spice or Herb ?
ONLY my Opinion BUT Gota BE FACT id KFC has it on EVERY History Story they write
Col. Sanders OWN words:
I had a good product and I knew it. I had been using this in my restaurant for 16 years (1939) – there wasn’t and guesswork in what I was doing – and I Knew how the public liked it.
That didn’t take any time, scarcely a day or two. Then I thought I had the perfect thing – it was just great. But there was one more ingredient that I wanted to put in, but I was afraid to in case I spoiled the trade that I had. Then one day, I had an order for $500 worth of chicken for a boat trip that a coming up the Cumberland Falls. I thought well those people aren’t my regular customers.
I am going to fix the chicken up with this and see what it will do. So, I put it in the flour and stirred it up with the other seasoning I tried the first piece out of the cooker and it was the best I had ever eaten it has remained the same to this day.
Also a NOTE * CHS said He developed the 11 Spices and Herbs and then Started using the Pressure Fryer so the 11 Spices and Herbs Came before the Pressure Fryer Pots in 1939/1940 ?
Please show other information then the ABOVE if it exists
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Apr 9, 2023 16:43:08 GMT 1
Post by flg on Apr 9, 2023 16:43:08 GMT 1
Copy from his autobiography.
In the meantime, I had developed my own special seasonings. I was selling an awful lot of chicken and I was building a wide reputation for it. I had started out with a couple of seasonings, including pepper and salt.
By trial and error, I finally arrived at what I felt was the
perfect blend to supplement the fragrance of my chicken. I got up to about ten different kinds of seasonings.
But no matter how much chicken I sold, I still coated it by hand with my seasoned flour. I was afraid to put in another seasoning. I had one in mind I thought would be good with the rest of my seasonings but there was nobody to try it out on except my customers. They’d come in to my place expecting their chicken dinner to be exactly the way it was the last time they’d had it.If I put in a new seasoning, they might not like it as much as the chicken they’d eaten before. I’ve always been determined that a dish that tastes great once will taste exactly the same or even better a year later.
Then one day I got an order for 500 chicken dinners. They were to be eaten on a boat trip up to Lake Cumberland. My assignment was just to fry the chickens for that many dinners and deliver them in big cases. I had an inspiration. I thought, “These chicken eaters are not my regular customers. They don’t even know my chicken. I’ll try my extra new seasoning element out on them.”
I threw two handfuls of it into the flour and stirred it up
with the rest of my seasonings. When I fried it up, it was the best chicken I’d ever tasted in my life. And, I’ve never changed my ingredients from that time to this.
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Apr 9, 2023 16:47:08 GMT 1
Post by flg on Apr 9, 2023 16:47:08 GMT 1
So he was up to about 10 ingredients before the boat trip. His own words.
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Apr 9, 2023 17:09:17 GMT 1
Post by Silver on Apr 9, 2023 17:09:17 GMT 1
Agreed! And that means the 11th ingredient added for the boat trip was a seasoning. Is MSG a seasoning? Is it ingredient #11?
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Apr 9, 2023 17:13:45 GMT 1
Post by flg on Apr 9, 2023 17:13:45 GMT 1
I had started out with a couple of seasonings, including pepper and salt. Also interesting the use of the word including pepper and Salt. Not plus or in addition to.
As far as MSG goes is it possible it was Brown and Pete that came up with that. To be a flavor booster as they reduced and cut back on quality and amount of real H&S? Just a thought.
If MSG was what was added for the boat trip. Then he counted that as the 11th it would seem
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