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Post by deepfriednew101 on Mar 9, 2023 19:50:44 GMT 1
East Frisian
Only 15 item are needed in the Recipe
Salt has Been External Typically
M.S.G. Not in the Original Recipe
Celery Salt, Garlic Salt, Onion Salt are NOT Spices and Herbs.
11 Spice and Herbs
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Post by Chickenman on Mar 9, 2023 22:31:55 GMT 1
If you think garlic isn't necessary then you do not understand the flavour profile sorry. Just from a basic cookery standpoint you can assume garlic is absolutely a crucial part of the O.R.
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Post by smallgree on Mar 9, 2023 23:16:10 GMT 1
The phrase 11 Ss&Hs, or Hs&Ss came from Colonel Harland Sanders. The 11 herbs and spices are what "he" considered them to be, not what some culinary expert or book says they are/were. He has been quoted as saying that salt was one of the 11. Either that was a false statement, or my presumption is correct.
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Post by smallgree on Mar 9, 2023 23:40:13 GMT 1
If CHS, his family, and KFC have done everything possible to disguise and hide the OR, then why would the play upon the number "11" surprise anyone? Think about it. 11 of this and that is a phrase, not necessarily a declaration of specifics. You can't sue them for fraud because there is no injury (it's a frickin secret), and no one knows what they are anyway. Who would sue, and for what?
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Mar 9, 2023 23:47:14 GMT 1
Spice & Herbs what C.H.S. continually said originally.
it was NOT until after the sale to Brown and Massey that the BUZZ PHRASE changed to Herbs and Spices.
as for the Salt
C.H.S. Originally stated time and times again that Flour, Salt, and Pepper were the original items and he Added 11 items to that Original Mix.
Many Many interviews Prior to the Sale of K.F.C. are the key to what He was doing Originally. After the sale some changes in Words were causing issues with C.H.S. and Interviews and Advertisement. There were 2 T.V. ads that took Days to Film and Finish because of C.H.S. incorrect words ?
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Post by smallgree on Mar 10, 2023 0:50:43 GMT 1
So you maintain that he never shot that remark back at a reporter who was quizzing him about the 11? I did not read that years ago?
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Mar 10, 2023 3:58:09 GMT 1
This is the Problem with History and the Reports who interviewed C.H.S. over his Life time. Many reporters Knew Zip about Cooking or Court Issues BUT they were given the Job to Report the issue as best they could. In the OLD days the reporters relied upon NOTES and Memory. No celphone and MP3 Players Cassette recorders or digital devices, Old fashion dictation.
What they wrote was then best of the memory and Note to right something which would sell papers.
C.H.S. Did many many Missions and Cooked on the Missions and at Many peoples Homes. He was Different in Person then many interviews and spoke wholesome down to earth, many of the interviews the same words as the interviews. BUT C.H.S. was doing 200 events a Years so He got as well diverse as a Lawyer defending the same cases Day after day, and when need to prove a Fact He knew how to do it. Like a Lawyer. Closing arguments need to be Fact.
When we look at a Story like Winston S He tells the story 20, 10 all 11 added up to 100% and 13 grams missing when C.H.S. gave him only 10 items Winston S Knew cooking as he was Building the Equipment needed and was around the Cooking industry so his recollecting is strong and accurate. Did the information get properly transmitted to story MOST likely as the Details he Gives FITS standard spice company ways to mix spices when 99x was being made BUT not the Original as it was most likely NOT done in a 100% weight mixing to 100% Especially NOT if you Look at Eula and Ledington Recipes in spoons which is harder to calculate to 100% BUT can be done. Also when C.H.S was at Leon Pete Harmons He did NOT have a scale to weigh the spices and most likely used spoons.
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Post by smallgree on Mar 10, 2023 4:36:00 GMT 1
I never read anywhere about CHS saying he started with salt, and pepper, then added the 11. As for smarting off to a pesky reporter about the 11 ingredients, I can see a man who used the number "11" as a ruse angrily smarting off that salt "was" in the 11, because it didn't really matter. There never were 11 individual ingredients. He could very well have said that lawn clippings were in the "11", because it was all a lie anyway. I recall joining TCK way back and laughing about how CHS was being immortalized as a saint. He was no saint. He was a foul mouthed, lying SOB, who fooled around on his wife. All he ever did was cook good fried chicken. Even when he donated to the church, he sat at the front and waited for praises, and if he didn't get them, he turned into a sour ass.
The point I made about the salt was that it didn't matter whether it was in the OR or not. 11 was just advertising, which no one was going to discover. Nothing that came out of that man's mouth was dependable, you see.
Again, Yves was always correct. The taste buds are the guide, not a number. If you never tasted it, then what in the hell are you looking for? I call it wheel spinning.
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Post by Chickenman on Mar 10, 2023 6:15:46 GMT 1
Just because you tasted it many, many years ago does not mean you still accurately remember how it tasted. Which means you are no better off than anyone else. I forget even how modern O.R taste's until i eat it again.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Mar 10, 2023 15:22:12 GMT 1
Chickenman There are many People who Know the Difference between Good and Bad AND as For remembering the Original Aroma, Sight, Taste, and Grease residual If you ate the Original YOU DO NOT FORGET IT.
It is as vivid as the Original Days in the 60's and 70's
The Old Times remember it
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