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Post by smallgree on Nov 19, 2022 6:00:42 GMT 1
Going to change up the lineup. It's amazing that all of the crap I put up with promoting cinnamon is now back in the discussion.
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Post by smallgree on Nov 19, 2022 23:55:59 GMT 1
The original 11 spices and herbs that KFC whittled down to fit the 11 vials.
Good Seasons Italian Dressing mix - 1
White pepper - 2
CHS's 5 Spice powder - 3,4,5,6,7
Sage - 8
Savory - 9
Salt - 10
MSG - 11
These ingredients come from direct information I have accumulated, and my interpretation of the 11 vials, particularly the light colored vials. KFC did some juggling to get all of these elements into the vials. This explains why the peppers, salt, msg and garlic seem to have been left out. CHS once said that salt was one of the 11. Duplicity.
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Post by Silver on Nov 20, 2022 0:23:51 GMT 1
The original 11 spices and herbs that KFC whittled down to fit the 11 vials. Good Seasons Italian Dressing mix - 1 White pepper - 2 CHS's 5 Spice powder - 3,4,5,6,7 Sage - 8 Savory - 9 Salt - 10 MSG - 11 These ingredients come from direct information I have accumulated, and my interpretation of the 11 vials, particularly the light colored vials. KFC did some juggling to get all of these elements into the vials. This explains why the peppers, salt, msg and garlic seem to have been left out. CHS once said that salt was one of the 11. Duplicity. Have you cooked this yet? It seems to have merit. |
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Post by smallgree on Nov 21, 2022 19:20:43 GMT 1
Not yet, but I've decided that I just don't like cinnamon. I believe CHS started here and took Eula's recipe and incorporated his discoveries. I think Ledington's could be legit with a code. I have been looking at it and have made numerous attempts to "find" a code. I have another experiment I'm going to make. If "salt" is a code, and only elements listing salt are in TBSs, then KFC could easily say that the 4 elements in "salt" and msg, could be the missing 5. I don't recall KFC saying that the other elements were bogus, or that there were only 11. Only that 5 were missing. I found an ingredient that was common in 1939 and 1940, but is not found easily today.
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Post by smallgree on Nov 25, 2022 17:32:03 GMT 1
I've finished my analysis of my various KFC seasonings, including the 1998 mix. I realize that these mixes are outdated, although the 1998 mix has been kept in the freezer.
Other than a slight reddish tint that appeared when I soaked the mixes in distilled water, the mixes, when mixed with the appropriate amount of salt, appear to contain only salt, some flavorless powder, pepper and msg.
IMO, the powder is a water soluble "flavor" extract that contains just enough to justify the "herbs and spices" claim.
I tested these mixes side-by-side with some black pepper, salt and msg, and found them to be indistinguishable.
For 24 years I've been sitting on a bag of salt, msg, and peppercorns. This is the classic "placebo" effect, as I probably have envisioned, and tasted elements that were never in those mixes.
Since I remember when the flavor of KFC changed from "savory" to salty and peppery, I assume that younger people that "think" they have tasted the "note", have not.
In a way, in some circles, it explains why there was so much resistance to testing my 1998 KFC mix. Out of sight, out of mind.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Nov 25, 2022 18:01:19 GMT 1
I Guess it goes to the Fact that William Poundstone in his book "Big Secrets,"
William Poundstone revealed a laboratory analysis of Kentucky Fried Chicken:
"The sample of coating mix was found to contain four and only four ingredients: flour, salt, monosodium glutamate, and black pepper. There were no eleven herbs and spices — no herbs at all in fact... Nothing was found in the sample that couldn't be identified."
ARE you Agreeing with this Claim?
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Post by Silver on Nov 25, 2022 18:20:20 GMT 1
www.kfc.ca/Content/OnlineOrderingImages/StaticPage/IngredientListingApril2018.pdfThis official Canadian KFC website states that spices are factually present, but that flour, salt, and MSG all exceed the weight of spices (which must include B&W Pepper). And yet again Garlic comes in dead last by weight. Interesting that the egg wash contains bakers yeast and citric acid. Aha, so that's where the citric acid goes. Zero mention of brining or marinating or injection. Zero mention of oleoresin extractives. It seems that Canada takes a very lax approach to such things.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Nov 25, 2022 18:25:05 GMT 1
The chicken is specially prepared by Sunrise Poultry and Packaged in the KFC specified way.
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Post by smallgree on Nov 25, 2022 22:29:03 GMT 1
I did not proclaim a theological, or philosophical doctrine. All I stated was that my KFC mixes only have salt, pepper and msg. Make of it as you wish.
My 1998 KFC bag is 32 oz. I just cooked a preliminary attempt at my most recent discovery. The gizzards taste like they used to. The World's greatest con job, helped by the gullible.
Flour
Egg
Milk
Salt
Peppercorn medley (3 or 4)
MSG
Ginger
Good Seasons Italian Dressing
Curry
Paprika
MYSTERY INGREDIENT (just received)
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Post by smallgree on Nov 26, 2022 9:36:25 GMT 1
Ate some cold gizzards. My search is over. I gave my recipe, without the amounts, or the secret ingredient. I will not be selling this, but I will be cooking it. I am bored with these scientific extrapolations, and the reworking of the same-olds, same-olds. I've not left out anything except the tastebuds, and that is your project.
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