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Post by deepfriednew101 on Mar 18, 2022 2:33:10 GMT 1
white Pepper and Paprika are two Main Items for the Flavor
if you look at the chicken when deep fried and the Meat is seared, In many ways you get a similar experience with a Pork Sausage in a Casing for Juiciness.
You get the same Greasiness with some Sausage when smoked and it covers you fingers greasy greatness.
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Post by Silver on Mar 18, 2022 9:39:29 GMT 1
white Pepper and Paprika are two Main Items for the Flavor if you look at the chicken when deep fried and the Meat is seared, In many ways you get a similar experience with a Pork Sausage in a Casing for Juiciness. You get the same Greasiness with some Sausage when smoked and it covers you fingers greasy greatness. , do you think I should increase the Paprika and reduce or eliminate the Crushed Red Chili Pepper Flakes? |
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Mar 18, 2022 11:20:33 GMT 1
I would increase Paprika and leave the Pepper Flake or use Red Pepper Flakes but increase the Paprika
I would also increase the Allspice and clove in relationship to a Paprika increase.
I try to educate people in this Basic awareness that is VERY critical in understanding CHS
HE was VERY VERY smart BUT very very loyal to his past achievements and ways and did not vary once he was on track with things.
from the beginning with chicken it was simple
Flour, Salt, Pepper that was it
then he tinkered with Spices and Herbs the Family loved and he used as he added it to the Mix. The MSG was the 12th item in 1955 ERA.
CHS was very very set in his ways and did NOT stray away from his cooking method once he had it set.
I have studied the way he did things and HE was a inspiration in life. learning his was was a gift and honor. I have some of his personal written recipes and he keeps things simple as a general rule and stays focused with same things.
I have tried to tell people also there was a time CHS also used a wet Batter as the Pre-Dip method for chicken coating to stick more piece with NO chicken skin.
The adhesion of flour is critical to a great piece of chicken and CHS would FORCE FORCE the flour onto the chicken he was a large man but he would stand on the chicken force with both hands squashing the flour onto the chicken in the 7-10-7 method. I mean physically push down hard to make the flour stick fold the season flour and then re force the seasoned flour HARD to the chicken, while taking the flour from the BOTTOM of the LUG. the seasoning would settle quick to the Bottom due to density
CHS often added MORE spice to the flour also which he taught you in his own cooking class. He said the Spice will also stick to the chicken more then the flour and then you have a weaker Flour mixture.
Paprika was changed in NEW AGE KFC to a washed Paprika or Paprika extract to save the OIL. and the extract does not contain the red pigment KFC also uses Carmel to help make the chicken a more golden brown color Turmeric also gives a golden color
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Post by Silver on Mar 18, 2022 12:16:00 GMT 1
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Post by Silver on Mar 18, 2022 12:36:09 GMT 1
The revised recipe would look like this:  |
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Mar 18, 2022 12:49:41 GMT 1
How much spice compared to Salt ?
You can try the Hot Paprika start with small amount and increase
always test 2 pieces of sacrificial chicken in a NEW seasoned flour.
AT our restaurant's we Always Do a TEST of chicken wings. Its MANDATORRY that our front end servers Try a Wing and small cup of soup prior to there shift.
That ways its a SALES pitch. I had the wings and soup today and the servers can UPSELL how good ( WE PAY THEM TO BE HONEST IF THEY DONT CARE FOR IT WE TELL THEM TO TELL THE PEOPLE ) we also give samples of wings to a table with French fries for young kids to keep then happy until meals arrive.
if something is OFF you can catch it quicker then later and screw up a whole bird, and make changes.
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Post by Silver on Mar 18, 2022 13:00:50 GMT 1
Salt = 29 grams (of which 5 grams would be within the H&S bag, and 24 grams would be in the added Salt bag)
H&S (including B&W Pepper and MSG) = 15 grams
H&S (including B&W Pepper) = 9 grams
H&S (excluding B&W Pepper) = 4 grams
So within the H&S bag there are 5 grams of salt and 4 grams of H&S which are other than B&W pepper.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Mar 18, 2022 13:13:26 GMT 1
A Balanced Mix should have Salt and Spices and Herbs
that are almost equal part salt NOT be way more then the total of the Spices and Herbs
in the OLD days prior to MSG salt was the higher item YES as MSG and I&G processed it became less.
salt is listed before Items on Labels because it out weights ANY 1 Spice volume but NOT necessary the combined of ALL spices and Herbs
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Post by Silver on Mar 18, 2022 13:27:50 GMT 1
A Balanced Mix should have Salt and Spices and Herbs that are almost equal part salt NOT be way more then the total of the Spices and Herbs in the OLD days prior to MSG salt was the higher item YES as MSG and I&G processed it became less. salt is listed before Items on Labels because it out weights ANY 1 Spice volume but NOT necessary the combined of ALL spices and Herbs Please refine this word salad for my simple mind to be able to make any practical use of it. |
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Post by flg on Mar 18, 2022 14:17:59 GMT 1
A Balanced Mix should have Salt and Spices and Herbs that are almost equal part salt NOT be way more then the total of the Spices and Herbs in the OLD days prior to MSG salt was the higher item YES as MSG and I&G processed it became less. salt is listed before Items on Labels because it out weights ANY 1 Spice volume but NOT necessary the combined of ALL spices and Herbs I would say within the spice bag. Salt is not the highest. The confusing part of this is quantifying what we are referencing when we talk weights. Spice bag - salt is not the highest Final flour or the old premixed flour - salt is the highest. Not that I have spent the time studying label laws. But to me a label says Salt, herbs and spices. Salt is heavier than all herbs and spices not just heavier than 1 of them. We have seen labels where KFC has broken pepper out of the H&S for weight labeling. We have seen where they went to the level of breaking white and black pepper out separately. So are they playing a game as to not have to list individual spices or too many of them sure they are. But they are careful not to break laws |
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