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Post by Silver on Aug 27, 2023 2:14:39 GMT 1
That chef is making basic fried chicken on a whim. He is not making perfected fried chicken that he spent over 10 years perfecting like C.H.S did. Sanders who was making fried chicken to sell would not have used that much paprika because he would of known it ruins the oil too quickly and colour of the chicken. Colonel Sanders would of wanted his chicken consistently looking golden brown, not dark coloured. KFC OR was assuredly a darker brown/red before ballpark circa 1985-1990(ish). My wife and I both recall being shocked to open up a bucket and find a merely golden brown KFC OR which had definitely lost some of it's aromatic nature and also had diminished note. |
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Post by Silver on Aug 27, 2023 2:25:39 GMT 1
2nd Alternate: 1.5 Metric Cups Vital Wheat Gluten 30.0 g. Bakers Salt --------------------------- 4.00 g. Red Pepper (3 g. Paprika, 1 g. Tabasco) [1] 3.50 g. MSG [12] 3.00 g. White Pepper [2] 2.50 g. Black Pepper (Medium Coarse) [3] 2.00 g. Colman's Mustard Powder [4] 1.00 g. Sage [5] 1.00 g. Ginger [6] 1.00 g. Allspice [7] 0.50 g. Savory [8] 0.50 g. Dill Seed [9] 0.50 g. Caraway Seed [10] 0.50 g. Garlic Powder [11]
This one gets my vote!
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Post by Chickenman on Aug 27, 2023 2:42:55 GMT 1
That chef is making basic fried chicken on a whim. He is not making perfected fried chicken that he spent over 10 years perfecting like C.H.S did. Sanders who was making fried chicken to sell would not have used that much paprika because he would of known it ruins the oil too quickly and colour of the chicken. Colonel Sanders would of wanted his chicken consistently looking golden brown, not dark coloured. KFC OR was assuredly a darker brown/red before ballpark circa 1985-1990(ish). My wife and I both recall being shocked to open up a bucket and find a merely golden brown KFC OR which had definitely lost some of it's aromatic nature and also had diminished note. In old picture of bucket of chicken in park with Sanders holding a blue bowl of chicken it is a very nice golden colour but this doesn't prove that paprika was high or low because they most likely would of been using it in extract form which doesn't affect the colour afaik. Common sense and my own experience tells me Sanders never would of used paprika in excessive amounts, especially the amount that is in Ledington recipe because it stains the oil after only 1 cook. |
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Aug 27, 2023 3:08:56 GMT 1
chickenman :
The original K.F.C. Chicken Prior to the Mid 70's was NOT golden brown it was a Rose red Hue with soft coating not the Crispy coating golden brown like NEW AGE HAS
2 Different Chicken color and coating
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Post by Silver on Aug 27, 2023 9:59:54 GMT 1
In old picture of bucket of chicken in park with Sanders holding a blue bowl of chicken it is a very nice golden colour but this doesn't prove that paprika was high or low because they most likely would of been using it in extract form which doesn't affect the colour afaik. I agree that if Paprika is still an ingredient, it is an extract devoid of red. I caution that photographs never quite capture proper color hues and intensities. And well more so when taken indoors. |
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Post by flg on Aug 27, 2023 16:10:14 GMT 1
Once again without a reference point to which version of the OR any of you are working on. It’s a moot point.
Your arguments and recipes should start with I am cloning the 1939 version so therefor it looks like this.
Or the boat trip version, or the sale to Brown version or todays crap. I just don’t understand the though train here
If you remotely think you can claim you have a recipe for OR blanket statement. You are 100% off the mark. It changes so much over the years 1 recipe doesn’t cover it without a reference point.
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Post by flg on Aug 27, 2023 16:13:39 GMT 1
I will qualify to say. That locally today the current KFC is more orange/light red than it has ever been for the 40 years prior. I have had it more than I like and each time that same hue. Something today locally is colouring the chicken.
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Post by Silver on Aug 27, 2023 16:31:45 GMT 1
I will qualify to say. That locally today the current KFC is more orange/light red than it has ever been for the 40 years prior. I have had it more than I like and each time that same hue. Something today locally is colouring the chicken. Probably spent oil. |
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Aug 27, 2023 17:08:32 GMT 1
Turmeric ?
It is Listed with the FDA and KFC as a Colorant in the Chicken ?
They also List Caramel as a Colorant
mix the Turmeric and the Caramel and its a color of it's own ?
Yes the Oils will dis color the chicken BUT what you are NOT certain of is the Machines Browning HIGH temp Time cycle ( ask the staff what machine they FRY the chicken in ?
The Browning is Time regulated Prior to the Temperature Drop
K.F.C. Main argument with Famous Chicken was That Famous brand was infringing on Patent process while Pressure Cooking and using TWO Temperatures and that was a patented Method. ITS ALL IN THE COURT CASES
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Post by flg on Aug 27, 2023 20:07:43 GMT 1
I don’t believe the orange is spent oil on the local chicken now. And to be honest I considered turmeric as you mentioned. I think colour wise it would match pretty good. I don’t have any to try but if I get some I will try it in some flour to compare the hue
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