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Post by deepfriednew101 on Jul 7, 2023 0:42:24 GMT 1
Yes, You Did not say that Pete Help create the recipe, Others have been questioning Did Pete Help C.H.S.
I have said that the Two handfuls were M.S.G. Element Two handfuls which Follows the Amount recommended for Fried Chicken in that Time period and amount of Flour.
The M.S.G. is a enhancer NOT a Spice and Herb Change.
Make a recipe with and without M.S.G. and see if it enhances your recipe
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Post by Silver on Jul 7, 2023 2:33:36 GMT 1
I didn't say he helped him create the recipe. I said he helped him "make it legal" for the spice companies to market. If the recipe was set, as you say, then why did he throw something in during the 1950s and comment that it completed his recipe of 11 Ss & Hs? You can't have your cake and eat it too. If what you say is true, then the 11th ingredient could not be MSG, since it was an Herb or Spice, bringing this category to 11.
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Post by smallgree on Jul 7, 2023 5:21:17 GMT 1
You are trying to put words into my mouth: "Yes, You Did not say that Pete Help create the recipe...". This is misleading because "yes" is misplaced to infer that I did contend that Pete helped create the recipe. Use of the word "not" is misused and does mislead the reader. The sentence contradicts, leaving you without actually making or proving a point.
Here is actually what I posted:
"It is my opinion that CHS and Pete knew they couldn't employ spice companies and ask them to blend copyrighted ingredients into their mix, so they took out the ingredients that they thought would best create that unique taste CHS had discovered."
In essence, they chose elements that would be legal, while still retaining the flavor of the original recipe. Your response is nonsensical.
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Post by Silver on Jul 7, 2023 12:35:01 GMT 1
It was me who proposed that Pete Harmon likely somewhat altered CHS's recipe, thereby making it better than the original.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Jul 7, 2023 14:37:07 GMT 1
I will State this LOUD and Clear. I Had Personal Time with Leon Pete Harmon on More then one occasion.
I asked the Show stopper questions that NO ONE asks, and I fully Had comprehension of K.F.C. plus I was introduced to Leon Via C.H.S. to visit His location.
Leon Pete Harmon was the catalyst to sky rocket C.H.S. Kentucky Fried Chicken because He took the Bull by the Horns and introduced the Bucket. Pete's Fame of how busy he was showed others that K.F.C. was a Great investment and C.H.S. business went crazy. The Canadian Calgary location Store Franchise world wide Number 2 was because contacts with Pete Harmon Busy location.
Leon Pete Harmon said He watched C.H.S. cook the Chicken and Gravy. He took C.H.S. to the Harmon Grocery Store and He paid for the Supplies that C.H.S. needed. as He said He Did NOT have Chicken in His location as He was a Hamburger Stand. He Did NOT have the Items C.H.S. needed to make the Chicken and Told C.H.S. buy everything He needed and Pete put the supplies on His Account. The Chicken they Got were Partially Frozen and Had to be Brine to unthaw quicker. This is also why they ate so Late.
Pete watched C.H.S. make the seasoned flour, and He Personally Cleaned the Kitchen The Next Morning so He had ALL the Spice Containers and was able to see how much of each item was used.
There were 11 Spices and Herbs, The Milk and Egg Warsh had Salt and Black Pepper inn it. Plus the Chicken was Brined.
Pete recreated the recipe while C.H.S. was in Australia for 2 weeks, and was sell Chicken when C.H.S. returned from His Mission Trip 2 weeks later.
C.H.S. called Pete Sneaky Pete as he was able to make the Kentucky Fried Chicken from WATCHING C.H.S.
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Post by Silver on Jul 7, 2023 14:59:29 GMT 1
It would be amazing to determine the precise quantities used across all 11 H&S merely by observing how much had been taken out of each fresh container by CHS.
Edit: But then I've emphasized on more than one occasion that human taste buds are terrible as instruments of science, and therefore ingredient weight alterations of "up to" about 33% (for some to perhaps most H&S) will often go undetected by the average taste buds. We are all being rather pedantic when we try to fine tune individual H&S weights to 2 decimal places (and in some cases 3) in grams.
Edit #2: This is why cooks who just toss in ingredients by eyeball sight and without measurement are better cooks than I am.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Jul 7, 2023 16:22:37 GMT 1
I have said this Time and Time again
Measure to Whole Grams and .5 grams
Measure a recipe to either 100g 50g or 25g using whole and 1/2 grams
The original recipe Does NOT use Grams its measured in portions IE Tablespoon and Teaspoon NOT GRAMS
the Gram 100 Scale was after Durkee's was Mixing the Spices and Herbs and Bill S. From Marion kay Claudia Mentioned Portion Cups Containers for each spice into the 100Lbs Barrel. She mixed the spices first into a Lug and poured it into the 100Lbs Barrels.
A Hobart 20 Stand mixer was used to mix the spices and herbs in the later time and then bigger mixers
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Post by smallgree on Jul 7, 2023 17:58:27 GMT 1
I agree with everything deepfriednew101 posted, and have the very exact information saved on my pc hard drive. That being said, I never spoke to any of these people and still have the exact information, which means it is available to anyone with the "net". Otherwise, these purported conversations are hearsay and are irrelevant if not "cross-examined" somehow. This is how you know if someone is pulling the wool over your eyes and withholding more specific truths. It is amazing to me how many people fail to realize the lying that goes on within the human race. This is what lawyers dig at, the lie. I have no proof that anybody talked to anyone. It is just hearsay, and the fact that I read this information elsewhere questions the credibility of the statements.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Jul 7, 2023 18:15:11 GMT 1
People who contacted me in Person have seen the Private Photo's with the People which Prove the Meetings and the Information in Photo's.
Many People who were around C.H.S. is the Canada time period spent much time with them in Missions and otherwise.
Again there are more People who are afraid to make a contact in person BUT want the information just handed on a silver platter, after the person who has the information By making 100's of contacts and trips over and over spending time with contacts in Memorabilia Item of K.F.C.
I know you Willie have been at this a LONG TIME also, and got lots of information over the years. I still Question why You did Not send your spices and Herbs for a Test as you have OLD bags of seasoning YET others Test 99x
I have said this to many My contact has been available for many to exchange information which I cannot post on open Forum its everyone's choice to make a contact
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Post by smallgree on Jul 7, 2023 19:46:03 GMT 1
Colonel Sanders was married and had children. He developed a good recipe for fried chicken and made it better by using a pressure cooker. Many would be afraid to curse with him toe to toe. He met Pete Harmon who lived in Utah.
I just did what you do. There is not one thing that you have posted that I don't already know. Tell me something I don't already know. Did CHS garden?
As for my KFC mixes. I offered and nobody saw the importance of testing them, because 99X WAS THE "OR" AND NO FURTHER INVESTIGATION WAS NECESSARY. What is odd is that I still have a recent KFC seasoning bag that is unopened, but nobody has requested any of it to test. Only Yves wanted some, and I sent him some (from an opened bag) to Canada.
Going over the same stuff, over and over, is just spinning wheels. I feel that if you really had all of this secret information, you could reveal something that indicated that you did, unless every single minute detail was being monitored.
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