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Post by deepfriednew101 on May 14, 2023 19:17:24 GMT 1
flg:
flg:What my working theory is… Winston was not given the OR recipe. He was given a Marion Kay derivative. That did contain 11 ingredients. Plus MSG and the extra salt.
This Makes Sense and WHY it makes sense the Original recipe IS NOT in GRAMS
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Post by Silver on May 14, 2023 19:22:44 GMT 1
Was it in 1975 that CHS gave the 100 gram recipe to WS? That would indeed be late. 11 years after CHS sold the company.
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Post by flg on May 14, 2023 19:28:54 GMT 1
Was it in 1975 that CHS gave the 100 gram recipe to WS? That would indeed be late. 11 years after CHS sold the company. Right and about 1 year after corporate shutdown the distribution of “99x” or chicken seasoning whatever MK was trying to sell to his remaining locations. Of which he liked better than the corporate mix at the time. No risk at all to him in giving out the MK variant. And like posted above. Because of the various stories having parts that don’t line up. If there was 2 recipe threads. The OR and what it became via corporate. And the MK variants. Things may line up better. Worth consideration anyway
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Post by deepfriednew101 on May 14, 2023 19:30:00 GMT 1
flg: I think it’s entirely possible the OR recipe is MSG, Salt, Pepper plus 11 herbs and spices.
Yes Agree
flg: Check the timeline when he gave out the recipe to Winston. Look at when corporate went hard against MK for distribution to the Canadian KFC’
Yes the Time Frame Does Match the Same time Period when C.H.S. was working with Bill S and Marion Kay and also a NOTE same time period that Mustard was a issue for Allergy and would Have NOT been in the 99X remake which Double fine mustard may or may never weighed 13 grams when reversed to a Original recipe ? and NOT in Marion Kay 99x
Bill S would have mixed the recipe to gram scale in the 1965 time period BUT in 1940's Grams would have been guessed from amount poured onto teaspoon or Tablespoon which C.H.S. would have used originally etc. the over and under scales were NOT that precise accurate as 1965 scales in Grams which Bill S would have been using in 1960's
and a different recipe then what Joe L has in Hand which is NOT in Grams either ?
your Theory HOLDS SOME WATER
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Post by flg on May 14, 2023 19:34:58 GMT 1
The word Tellicherry and the grams measurements likely came from MK. I’d agree on that as well
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Post by Silver on May 14, 2023 19:37:42 GMT 1
In the early 1970's I was using Analytical Balance scales that were highly accurate in weighing grams to the 4th decimal place. I can't believe that scales were lousy in 1965.
Edit: The 'Strain Gauge' that eventually made precision electronic scales possible at relatively non-astronomical prices was invented in 1938. The Pizeoelectric Effect, which can make for even better and more stable scales, albeit at high price, was discovered in 1880.
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Post by flg on May 14, 2023 19:46:20 GMT 1
Not saying that scientific measuring equipment weren't metric for a long long time. I do know here in Canada we didn't switch formally to metric until spring of 1975. We had been using metric for longer than the formal change. CHS would have known and used grams that I wouldn't argue. I strongly feel the 100g recipe didn't come from his original work. It came from a spice mixer like MK.
Everyone is allowed their own opinion and theories though. So no one is forced to use mine.
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Post by Silver on May 14, 2023 19:53:57 GMT 1
In 1866 the US Congress enacted legislation making it lawful to use the Metric System. It was likely not much beyond that whereby it was standardized across the scientific communities. As to when food manufacturing enterprises began seeing it's benefit, I have no clue.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on May 14, 2023 20:43:40 GMT 1
by the 1960's very precise scales were more available BUT NOT at a restaurant use or smaller scale operation
Marion Kay would have had some of the Best equipment as they were Heavy into Clocks and Watch's sales also while selling Spices.
Spice companies would have had some of the better equipment known for there sales.
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Here is a vial recipe:
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Post by smallgree on May 14, 2023 21:02:52 GMT 1
So any BS is in, correct. That's what I've been fed.
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