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Post by Silver on Aug 30, 2022 12:08:56 GMT 1
4 Oz. MSG 4 Oz. Salt 4 Oz. White Pepper (1) 4 Oz. Black Pepper (2) 3 Oz. Coriander Seed (3) 2 Oz. Ginger (4) 1-2/3 Oz. Sage (5) 1 Oz. Anise Seed (6) 1 Oz. Cayenne Pepper (7) 1/3 Oz. Garlic Powder (8) 1/3 Oz. Nutmeg (9) 1/3 Oz. Mace (10) 1/3 Oz. Clove (11) Total = 26 ounces Combine with 3-3/4 Lbs. Salt and 25 Lbs. Pastry Flour
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Post by Silver on Aug 30, 2022 13:38:35 GMT 1
Credit goes to deepfriednew101 for this image. It explicitly states that the bag (which itself contains salt) is to be added to 3-3/4 Lbs. Salt and 25 Lbs. Flour:  3-3/4 Lbs. = 1,701 grams 1701/11340 = 0.15 For 200 grams of flour: 0.15 x 200 = 30 grams So it's 30 grams of Salt plus the salt inside the 740 gram bag. And with the presumption of 4 Oz. of Salt in the bag, this leads me to conclude 32 grams of Salt are needed for every 200 grams of flour. |
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Post by flg on Aug 30, 2022 17:45:00 GMT 1
I believe in the analysis done on 99x the thought was MSG was around 7.75-8oz. While that doesn't have much bearing on real KFC and their labeling. I'd tend to believe setting MSG, salt and both peppers exactly the same. Isn't how I'd interpret the label. But TBH I'm not clear on the "rules".
I do think finding weights that satisfy multiple package labeling or could. Is a of great help.
We know at one point 4lbs salt was added to the flour. But at that time was any extra salt in the seasoning bag?
Does "Plus Vegetable Herbs and Spices" mean that the combined weight is less than that of each of the individually listed items?
MSG, SALT, White Pepper, Black Pepper, (everything else) - ? So - 8,6,5,4,3 or 7,6,5,4,4 I don't know.
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Post by Silver on Aug 30, 2022 18:13:06 GMT 1
Does "Plus Vegetable Herbs and Spices" mean that the combined weight is less than that of each of the individually listed items? MSG, SALT, White Pepper, Black Pepper, (everything else) - ? So - 8,6,5,4,3 or 7,6,5,4,4 I don't know. I don't know either. I'm not sure that anyone knows. |
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Post by Silver on Aug 30, 2022 18:16:24 GMT 1
I believe in the analysis done on 99x the thought was MSG was around 7.75-8oz. While that doesn't have much bearing on real KFC and their labeling. I'd tend to believe setting MSG, salt and both peppers exactly the same. Isn't how I'd interpret the label. But TBH I'm not clear on the "rules". I'm fairly confident that setting them at the same weight meets the listing order requirements. If anything, perhaps this sends the ordering criteria into a secondary classification ruling of some sort (a ruling intended to decide what goes first, second, third, fourth, on the label if all four weigh exactly the same). |
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Post by flg on Aug 30, 2022 20:03:03 GMT 1
If 2 items weigh the same. Is there anything that says then go in alphabetical order. Or some other order. Or could it then be random?
This has always been the part I couldn't find agreement on. Does White Pepper listed before Black Pepper actually mean there must be more White Pepper by weight? Where as MSG, Salt could be the same but they are listed in alphabetical order?
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Post by Silver on Aug 30, 2022 22:15:02 GMT 1
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Post by flg on Aug 30, 2022 23:16:48 GMT 1
Based on that would you say:
MSG is more than or equal to Salt. Salt is more than or equal to White Pepper (Less than or equal to MSG) and so on. Meaning Vegetable Herbs and Spices would be less than or equal to Black Pepper?
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Post by Silver on Aug 31, 2022 0:42:08 GMT 1
Based on that would you say: MSG is more than or equal to Salt. Salt is more than or equal to White Pepper (Less than or equal to MSG) and so on. Meaning Vegetable Herbs and Spices would be less than or equal to Black Pepper? Which of my H&S would qualify as Vegetable Herbs and Spices? |
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Aug 31, 2022 18:05:07 GMT 1
A review of Old 1920-1930 spice tins answer that question.  |
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