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Post by smallgree on Mar 27, 2024 21:15:57 GMT 1
I was doing something with dehydrated onions the other day and I couldn't help from thinking that it had the old KFC aroma. Is part of what we smelled outside in the old days onion? Kind of like a Southern hamburger joint which can be smelled for blocks. Onions?
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Post by Deep Taste on Mar 27, 2024 21:25:22 GMT 1
I do believe now that Onion may have been an important player in the past, not all Onion flakes that I tried taste the same, those today were perfect, when they get fried they release sweetness and complexity to the flavour, combined with the earthy subtle tone of Turmeric and we may be on something here, you mentioned Hamburger, that brings to my mind Tallow, Onion and Egg, I do believe a recipe would be enhanced greatly if we start from a clear recollection of the old taste and aroma using some of those spices.
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Post by Deep Taste on Mar 27, 2024 21:39:36 GMT 1
This is KFC seasoning, those white yellow flakes had been always considered to be just White Pepper, which might be true, but compare them to my Onion flakes today and tell if they don't look the same: And here is the kick, Sanders started developing his mix from Seasoned Salt, which typically contains Onion! DT
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Post by smallgree on Mar 27, 2024 22:38:15 GMT 1
I've always looked for that aftertaste whang I detected in my 1998 KFC seasoning, which I could never put my finger on. My bags are salt, msg, and pepper and a powder. Maybe that taste is/was onion. That hamburger smell, and the Mexican restaurant smell, which I assumed was oregano, just might have been onion.
CHS said that he used "dressing" and "sausage" ingredients. I never was quite sure if the dressing was salad or Thanksgiving. On Thanksgiving, the onion, celery and sage filled the air all day.
I've been using a Mexican type of tomato, chicken bouillon, and the onion and garlic are quite pronounced. I've only tested it once. See my post for more on this.
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Post by Deep Taste on Mar 28, 2024 4:12:55 GMT 1
I have just noticed that Turmeric is a part of Lawry's Seasoned Salt too along with Onion. DT
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Post by Deep Taste on Mar 28, 2024 5:24:17 GMT 1
DTXP 802
1 tsp Black Pepper, freshly ground 1 tsp Black Pepper, finely pulverized 1 tsp White Pepper, freshly ground
1/2 tsp Herbs de Provence 1/4 tsp Chili Flakes 1/4 tsp Nutmeg, freshly grated 1/4 tsp Lemon Peel 1/4 tsp Onion Flakes 1/4 tsp Turmeric
2 cups Flour 5 tsp Salt 2 tsp MSG 2 tsp Milk Powder 1 tsp Egg White Powder 1 tsp Dextrose
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Post by Deep Taste on Mar 31, 2024 3:23:58 GMT 1
DTXP 802
Today I did a quick run on my last DTXP 802 recipe, the smell during cooking was the usual aroma I get while frying under pressure, sweet, chickeny and nothing very special stood out, the same by serving, I should also mention that I went out of my Milk and Egg powder except for 1 tsp which I used, but it was clearly not enough to hold the coating on the pieces together like before, I should have made the traditional Milk and Egg wash instead. I woke up this morning catching a flu that set my senses a bit behind, but I had to go with the experiment any way, and to my surprise, the very first bite of the coating has filled my mouth with the exact pepper sensation I was looking for, I almost danced with joy, before my senses steped back, and I continued the meal without been able to examin the other tones of the spices as I hoped for. Nevertheles, It has shown me one thing wrong in this approach, never been mentioned anywhere original recipe related to the best of my knowledge, I need to examin these ideas in my next set of batches for confirmation. Although not a success, but I believe now that I understand the way to do the seasoning better, it also guided me to another aspect I rarely give importance to. I will try to craft an official recipe if things went the way I imagine, there is a couple of combinations I have to try before though. Happy frying! Deep Taste
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Post by Deep Taste on Mar 31, 2024 18:34:15 GMT 1
DTXP 803
2 tsp Black pepper 1 tsp White Pepper
1 tsp Italian Dressing Mix 1/4 tsp Ginger 1/4 tsp Mustard 1/4 tsp Cardamom
2 Cups Flour 5 tsp Salt 2 tsp MSG 2 tsp Milk Powder 1 tsp Egg White Powder
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Post by Deep Taste on Apr 10, 2024 20:13:04 GMT 1
Thoughts on DTXP 803
AROMADuring cooking: BClear improvement upon DTXP 802, it was very pleasant and special, I believe it is a step in the right direction, if I was cooking huge batches like at KFC outlets I would have been able to give a better judgment. By Serving: CI didn't take a deep dig into the pieces Aroma directly before serving, there was something new, which is rarely the case here no matter which mix being used, but I cannot be sure it is KFC, nevertheless being able to change the familiar pieces Armoa is certainly a positive. COATINGColour: A+I know photos wouldn't give the absolute true colour like what one observes with naked eyes, but of all my experiments it was the most beautiful colour I've managed to achieve. Specks: BVery good, maybe it stands to be improved further, I like it as it is though. Adhesion: A+The minimum amount of crackling in the bottom of the pot, the coating and spices stuck nicely to the chicken, best texture and crunchy coating to date, I am sure for many other people KFC for them is having such a special and lovely coating with juicy meat, no matter which herbs or spices went into this. TASTE
Pepper: C+ (could be B) The pepper taste was there but a little weak, if I could enhance this a little bit further I will call it a day. Herbs tone: BThe most delicious taste I've ever gotten from herbs, the Italian Seasoning has beaten all my previous herbs combinations hands down, maybe it is not 100% exactly the KFC herbs tone I am after, but man, I realy don't care with such a great flavour Spices tone: CI am not sure about Cardamom, either it has to be lower or it doesn't belong, don't get me wrong, Cardamom is great on chicken, if I am doing any other recipe I will use it gladly, but it just didn't touch that KFC nerve on me this time. OVERALL: 2A 3B 3C 0D
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Post by smallgree on Apr 10, 2024 21:48:41 GMT 1
Pepperal. When I blend my peppers with the msg and salt, the resulting mix is very hot, although I do not use chili peppers.
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