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Post by deepfriednew101 on Apr 20, 2022 11:36:41 GMT 1
Egg would be added to the List
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Post by Silver on Apr 26, 2022 13:04:38 GMT 1
With the background of understanding that in the Beer drinking world individuals generally have a hard time determining Hop Bitterness level (or IBU) differences of up to as much as about 35% between otherwise identical Beers, my radical OR clone effort thought for the day is:
Why are we micro-managing each and every Herb and Spice addition level to the hundredth decimal place when there may potentially be a variance (or tolerance) in addition quantity of up to +/- 35% for each ingredient before one can 'definitively' tell beyond mere guessing that a change has been made?
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Post by Silver on Apr 26, 2022 13:13:18 GMT 1
I'm only using +/- 35% as a 'generic' starting point here. It's possible that every individual H&S will likely have it's own +/- % range of variance in addition quantity before such can be definitively detected via the taste buds. And it's possible that some may have far greater addition variance for change detection than 35%.
On first guess, my personal opinion is that it will likely be 'Salt' that is proved to have the narrowest % change before actual detection limits.
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Post by Silver on Apr 26, 2022 13:23:31 GMT 1
The wide latitude that +/- approximately 35 percent as to addition addition quantities brings with it brings up another major problem issue. Within a rather delimited H&S playing field as to our ingredient selection, and with potentially +/- 35% latitude as to addition weights, the probability of hitting the note is now vastly improved vs. having to hit ingredients to 2 (or even 3) decimal point precision. If any of us (spanning a few decades) has been playing within the right ingredients list ballpark, a vast many of us should have hit the 'note' by now.
But we haven't!
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Post by Silver on Apr 28, 2022 12:09:26 GMT 1
My radical thought for the day:
Who among us is convinced that by merely rearranging the same old list of ingredients over and over again in conjunction with varying their weights over and over again somehow these actions will on some glorious day magically emerge a cloned duplicate of KFC_OR?
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Apr 28, 2022 13:50:05 GMT 1
There's a Fine Line like anything, The old saying if you keep doing the something repeatedly you will get a similar end result? There is a point where after you have exhausted all remedy to a solution try anther Method or Spice. Many Marriages have ended when the wife asked the Husband to spice up the Bedroom and when the man failed to change the spice she got a new spice grinder on her own. I have tried many recipes where you Max out the Salt, or Pepper Recipe and you know when Max is Max. But when they are Max out you either recognize that the other aspect is missing the question then becomes how do you get the other spice aspect into a level required to balance the cause. example below in Photo. We went to the Stove Top Skillet Cook Method Old School No temp measured just heat the Oil and cook by Knowledge base of understanding and 1000 previous cooking. In this cook Method we attempted 2 different methods of cooking and a More wet batter attempt like Fish and Chips (wanted to see if the wet batter would support more flavor in the batter then a Dry Flour spice Mix. WHICH THE WET BATTER (FISH FRY STYLE) worked way better for Flavor with spices then dry flour. We also incorporated FRESH Herbs and Spices into the WET Batter. (Massive Massive Flavor increase Fresh Spices and Herbs into a Wet Batter) Why Did we try it for the simple reason wanted to see would the Wet Batter hold better Flavor with Less Spices YES IT DID
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Apr 28, 2022 13:58:17 GMT 1
Photo 1 above photo
All Dry spices and Herbs
Photo 2 Bottom Photo
Dry Spices with Fresh Spices and Herbs
The Bottom recipe was MUCH more Flavored possibly a 20% increase in Flavor, There was Zero comparison between the two cook off You could immediately Smell the Difference cooking also. Fresh Dill, Fresh Oregano, Fresh Parsley, Fresh Garlic, Fresh Ginger, Fresh Sage were added. The was very little Burning of the spices when deep fried. Mustard was Used and NO Paprika so the color was definitely more a Golden color.
The Bottom Photo was also Cooked at a higher Heat Start then the Top Photo and you can see the Difference in Coating effect. The Higher Temp expands the Coating and sets it much better.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Apr 28, 2022 14:08:12 GMT 1
Fresh White and Black Pepper were ground, and Savory was Fresh also, Marjoram was a Dried Powder, so was Tarragon, Micro Plain Sweet Oil was added also.
Please NOTE* to prepare the Wet Batter with fresh Herbs and Spices it took Longer then the Dry Mix Flour recipes, to Prepare BUT the Dip process was faster in coating the pieces pre-cook. Wet also Produced a more Moist Cook also.
Was the extra work worth it, HELL YA
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Post by Silver on Apr 29, 2022 11:16:21 GMT 1
My radical thought for the day is:
It is vastly more likely that CHS came about his amazing formula for note delivering KFC_OR via trial and error, vs. systematically via adherence to any numeral sequence such as 20,18,13,11,11,10,6,4,3,3,1, or the rather similar Fibonacci Sequence, or any other sequence.
Adherence to any strict sequence or structure inherently destroys multiple magnitudes of "degrees of freedom" through which to achieve success on a multitude of levels.
What seems to be implied is that each time he added a new spice he used feedback from his own family members whereby to assess the value (and suggest weight variation and/or rejection) for the new addition. Via this feedback loop, and trial and error, success was eventually achieved. CHS was likely very careful to make only a single change at a time. And this latter point seems to be something that we generally can't fully wrap our heads around.
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Post by Silver on Apr 29, 2022 12:00:24 GMT 1
Short version: Make only single changes. Then let the collective feedback of multiple taste testers be your guide. Do not let any highly restrictive numerical sequence be your guide.
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