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Post by deepfriednew101 on Aug 16, 2024 15:17:33 GMT 1
Old Herb Blend
While Doing research on Old Seasoning and the Information C.H.S. Gave Gloria P.
That she could find one Box / Package which contained the ingredient's in the 11 Herbs and Spices.
She found that The Good's Italian Seasoning was something to USE BUT She admitted it DID NOT contain ALL the Ingredient's
In research Dating Back to the Oldest Italian Seasoning Mixes Located and listed Ingredient's:
basil, marjoram, oregano, parsley flakes, rosemary, sage rubbed, savory
A cross reference was checked with OLD sausage seasoning Mixes from the 1940's and earlier. Many of the above items Did and were used in Different sausage seasoning and Morton's Sausage Seasoning Had Most of the above item's
We were able to obtain a Old Italian Seasoning Mix which was used in the 1930's containing the Above ingredient's. The AROMA from the Mixed Blend is UNREAL and has a NOTE which is similar to a KFC NOTE
I know that Many will say that it contains 7 Ingredient's and thats not the Point BUT cooking the Items in a sausage Does give a Aroma which is similar to a K.F.C. minus the Pimento and Pepper
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Post by douglas78 on Aug 16, 2024 15:26:22 GMT 1
I wish you would post images and/or documents when you come across a new finding. It really helps validate what you're telling us.
Thanks!
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Post by smallgree on Aug 16, 2024 17:34:35 GMT 1
I'll be cooking "herb" drumsticks later, and gizzards tomorrow. I honestly believe that the herbs display more essence than the spices.
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Post by Silver on Aug 17, 2024 10:30:28 GMT 1
basil, marjoram, oregano, parsley flakes, rosemary, sage rubbed, savory Exactly none of these listed ingredients will evolve the critical 'note' (flavor character essence) of Colonel Sanders classic taste discovery. Why then endlessly dwell and focus upon specifically these? Ruse? Misdirection? Obfuscation? Deception? |
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Post by flg on Aug 17, 2024 13:46:32 GMT 1
Exactly, any combination of those herbs in the right ratio to each other. Easily fill the "herbs". But won't bring forward the "note"....
Remember the last thing DFN101 wants is for you to figure out the recipe.
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Post by Silver on Aug 17, 2024 14:13:54 GMT 1
Exactly, any combination of those herbs in the right ratio to each other. Easily fill the "herbs". But won't bring forward the "note".... Remember the last thing DFN101 wants is for you to figure out the recipe. Bingo! And he's not alone. He has fellow travelers. |
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Post by smallgree on Aug 17, 2024 19:42:00 GMT 1
I've taken every road I know of. I disagree about the herbs. You get locked in on a pet herb or spice, and your judgment becomes clouded. If herbs have a minimal effect, then I'll find out by cooking, and not through prejudice or speculation.
I remember sitting at a friend's house in 1961 or 1962 eating KFC. We studied the chicken intently to try to figure out what was in/on it. I remember that day like it was yesterday. The "note" was very sharp and savoury. I've seen little evidence that anyone has replicated that taste. Close doesn't count if you quit looking.
Everybody has their prejudices and they do their darnedest to promote them. If you restrict your research, then you'll never figure it out. I've maintained for years that if you don't know what is in the OR, then you don't know what isn't in it. It's pure speculation. You guys are looking for one or two spices that contain all of the taste characteristics that produce the note. I'm speculating that the combinations of various herbs along with garlic, onion, celery and pepper, create the note.
The last chicken I cooked, which was herb heavy, was so good that I'm going to look for a new pressure cooker. My extract is nearly dry and I believe that I'm going to discover that Pepperall was the main element in creating the note.
Let me make a hypothetical assumption. Suppose that I am correct that Pepperall was the main element creating the KFC note and everything else had supporting roles. That means that everybody and his mother has been barking up the wrong tree for years. If that was true, then you have to ask yourself, why did I fall into a rut and fail to discover what I've been looking for? Because you ain't been overturning the correct stones. If someone says "this, or that, doesn't created the note", then I will ask, "when did you try it frying chicken"?
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Sept 10, 2024 15:33:56 GMT 1
The original chicken had visual physical herbs you could see cooked into the red Hue color soft coating.
You could see the Rosemary, Basil, Oregano style Herbs with Black pepper spec's
Anyone who Thinks herbs have No Flavor or Aroma note has Not ate Italian Food cooked by a older Italian Mother or grandmother who used herbs in the Sauce base
How is it that the McDonalds McRib which is infused with Rosemary Extract had a Unique Taste and Aroma which is a Like or dislike item to many
Rosemary was used in Many Sausage Recipes world wide for the Smoking flavor and Aroma it gave ?
A true Blend of Italian Herbs Rosemary, Basil, Oregano, Sage, Marjoram give a Aroma which will Pop many items ?
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Post by Silver on Sept 10, 2024 17:54:12 GMT 1
The original chicken had visual physical herbs you could see cooked into the red Hue color soft coating. You could see the Rosemary, Basil, Oregano style Herbs with Black pepper spec's Having eaten KFC since 1959, I refute this. Black specs, yes. Herbs, no. If you want to capture the unique flavor note of KFC you will need adequate of ingredients drawn from among this non-herb camp (in no particular order): Cardamom Coriander Seed Mace Nutmeg Clove Allspice Ginger |
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Post by smallgree on Sept 10, 2024 19:05:14 GMT 1
I use all except mace. From what I've read, mace dissipates quickly in hot oil.
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