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Post by Silver on Feb 17, 2024 21:56:55 GMT 1
9) The 2 grams of Table Sugar was also of subtle positive benefit. 10) If only I had a pressure cooker. 11) I'll be testing my blood glucose level in about 25 minutes to try to catch it at peak post eating elevation. That was a lot of cake flour crust in addition to the sugar.
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100 just before eating
134 after waiting for peak
For reference: A couple weeks ago a single (and very tiny) Micky-D's Sausage McMuffin with Egg sent me from about 100 to a peak reading of 184.
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Post by cman on Feb 17, 2024 23:06:48 GMT 1
I have said before that the milk/ buttermilk is an important part of the KFC OR taste and partially lends to the nutty taste and smell. I have tried powdered milk recently to see if it can additionally give a stronger nutty profile mixed with lemon juice during the marination. There is a powdered buttermilk product that I want to try also. Buttermilk, after all, is part of traditional Southern fried chicken and I can see CHS using the method.
Crazyforchicken, could you re-post your 24 hour brining method? Otherwise, Silver can you post the method. Thnx. In this latest attempt, how were the joints and meat quality?
I tried a 2 day brining with salt to try a softer bone consistency and it still lacks the softness that velveting provides. Oddly, the meat achieved a pinkish hue after the 3rd and fourth day. ( I set aside a piece for continuing observation as part of the experiment.
Sorry about your battle with diabetes, Silver.
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Post by crazyforchicken on Feb 17, 2024 23:35:04 GMT 1
.... Crazyforchicken, could you re-post your 24 hour brining method? Otherwise, Silver can you post the method. Thnx. In this latest attempt, how were the joints and meat quality? ..... This is my method: I do 2 thighs and 2 drums in 3.5 cups water, 2 tsp coarse salt, 2 tsp MSG, and optional:1 tsp H & S mix (w/o the flour). If I'm short of time I poke holes thru the skin. Preferred soak is 24-48 hrs. Drain chicken and raise to room temperature. I do not rinse the chicken before dipping in 1 egg beaten in 1 TBSP corn starch. I pressure fry in a drop temp of 340F, lid off for 1-2 min, then cap on tight. When jiggler starts to rock, turn heat to low setting. Total time 13 min. De-pressure and scoop out chicken onto a metal grate in a metal/glass pan. After 1 min cover and put in 175F oven. Eat after 20 min.
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Post by Silver on Feb 17, 2024 23:38:00 GMT 1
I have said before that the milk/ buttermilk is an important part of the KFC OR taste and partially lends to the nutty taste and smell. I have tried powdered milk recently to see if it can additionally give a stronger nutty profile mixed with lemon juice during the marination. There is a powdered buttermilk product that I want to try also. Buttermilk, after all, is part of traditional Southern fried chicken and I can see CHS using the method. Crazyforchicken, could you re-post your 24 hour brining method? Otherwise, Silver can you post the method. Thnx. In this latest attempt, how were the joints and meat quality? I tried a 2 day brining with salt to try a softer bone consistency and it still lacks the softness that velveting provides. Oddly, the meat achieved a pinkish hue after the 3rd and fourth day. ( I set aside a piece for continuing observation as part of the experiment. Sorry about your battle with diabetes, Silver. I think the thighs we cooked today were more tender and juicy throughout than has been typical for us. But they entirely lacked the section with the oyster, kidney, and finer bones. That section is there if the leg and thigh are purchased as a unit and separated at home, but (from our sources at least) not if thighs alone are purchased. I enjoy that section, so not having it is a bit of a disappointment.
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Post by Silver on Feb 17, 2024 23:45:35 GMT 1
.... Crazyforchicken, could you re-post your 24 hour brining method? Otherwise, Silver can you post the method. Thnx. In this latest attempt, how were the joints and meat quality? ..... This is my method: I do 2 thighs and 2 drums in 3.5 cups water, 2 tsp coarse salt, 2 tsp MSG, and optional:1 tsp H & S mix (w/o the flour). If I'm short of time I poke holes thru the skin. Preferred soak is 24-48 hrs. Drain chicken and raise to room temperature. I do not rinse the chicken before dipping in 1 egg beaten in 1 TBSP corn starch. I pressure fry in a drop temp of 340F, lid off for 1-2 min, then cap on tight. When jiggler starts to rock, turn heat to low setting. Total time 13 min. De-pressure and scoop out chicken onto a metal grate in a metal/glass pan. After 1 min cover and put in 175F oven. Eat after 20 min. crazyforchicken, do you rinse off the brine, or simply drain/strain it off?
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Post by crazyforchicken on Feb 17, 2024 23:48:22 GMT 1
crazyforchicken , do you rinse off the brine, or simply drain/strain it off? I do not rinse. I let it drain off.
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Post by Silver on Feb 17, 2024 23:50:58 GMT 1
crazyforchicken , do you rinse off the brine, or simply drain/strain it off? I do not rinse. I let it drain off. My wife guessed right!
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Post by underpressure on Feb 18, 2024 0:15:54 GMT 1
I have said before that the milk/ buttermilk is an important part of the KFC OR taste and partially lends to the nutty taste and smell. I have tried powdered milk recently to see if it can additionally give a stronger nutty profile mixed with lemon juice during the marination. There is a powdered buttermilk product that I want to try also. Buttermilk, after all, is part of traditional Southern fried chicken and I can see CHS using the method. Crazyforchicken, could you re-post your 24 hour brining method? Otherwise, Silver can you post the method. Thnx. In this latest attempt, how were the joints and meat quality? I tried a 2 day brining with salt to try a softer bone consistency and it still lacks the softness that velveting provides. Oddly, the meat achieved a pinkish hue after the 3rd and fourth day. ( I set aside a piece for continuing observation as part of the experiment. Sorry about your battle with diabetes, Silver. I think the thighs we cooked today were more tender and juicy throughout than has been typical for us. But they entirely lacked the section with the oyster, kidney, and finer bones. That section is there if the leg and thigh are purchased as a unit and separated at home, but (from our sources at least) not if thighs alone are purchased. I enjoy that section, so not having it is a bit of a disappointment. You must try 2.5#-3# broilers. Ice water chilled, no additives. Up to 15% retained water. These chickens are young and will give you a juicy and tender final product. The pre-cut chicken parts you can buy are random sizes and from random aged birds (usually older and larger so they make more $ on the parts). Buy small whole birds and cut them up yourself.
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Post by cman on Feb 18, 2024 1:11:37 GMT 1
Thnx CrazyForChicken. How did you find the bones and joints? And the meat quality? Still trying to get the KFC Bonet softness. 12 minutes pressure frying alone is not matching the bone and joint softness quality that I remember. I do not recall if the bones back then darken after about 2 days after consuming the meat. I noticed that a popular Fried chicken restaurant of today has its bone darkening afterwards. There is always the possibility that antibiotics might be the source. Needs to be tested I guess.
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Post by crazyforchicken on Feb 18, 2024 1:25:52 GMT 1
Thnx CrazyForChicken. How did you find the bones and joints? And the meat quality? Still trying to get the KFC Bonet softness. 12 minutes pressure frying alone is not matching the bone and joint softness quality that I remember. I do not recall if the bones back then darken after about 2 days after consuming the meat. I noticed that a popular Fried chicken restaurant of today has its bone darkening afterwards. There is always the possibility that antibiotics might be the source. Needs to be tested I guess. Bone ends did soften after brining 48 hrs then pressure frying.
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