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Post by Silver on Mar 9, 2022 15:08:49 GMT 1
If Ledington's recipe was scaled in teaspoons, and it had one prominent ingredient intentionally left out, with that being 'ballpark' 1 teaspoon of Allspice, might it make good chicken and capture the note?
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Post by flg on Mar 9, 2022 17:27:23 GMT 1
If Ledington's recipe was scaled in teaspoons, and it had one prominent ingredient intentionally left out, with that being 'ballpark' 1 teaspoon of Allspice, might it make good chicken and capture the note? In one post I had presented the teaspoon theory and I think I may have posted approx weights doing it that way |
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Post by flg on Mar 9, 2022 18:37:28 GMT 1
The one thing that stands out to me in that. Now mind you it's volume to weight. But 2/3 teaspoons of salt, could be real close to 4 grams. And it's 4 grams additional salt I think is in a 40g mix. In teaspoons rough estimate is the total weight is in that 40g ballpark range.
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Post by Silver on Mar 9, 2022 18:49:44 GMT 1
3 packed cups of flour is ~400 grams, but 3.5 sifted cups of cake flour proves to be ~400 grams also. Only a couple days ago I determined that a 'typical' cake flour weighs about 113 grams per cup when sifted. 3.5 x 113 = 396 grams.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Mar 10, 2022 1:08:07 GMT 1
Keep this in MIND
Salt and Pepper in Tablespoons ALL others in teaspoon.
Remember Salt Pepper and MSG are the 3 items KFC openly admit to as CHS always said he started with Salt and Pepper the MSG was a Outcast the 12th item added in 1955ish
I have reviewed 1000's of pre 1940 recipes and the OLDER you go back the spices were measured in teaspoon. The Spice Tin of the 1920's were developed with 3 Flaps the Middle which a teaspoon can fit into and the one side wide smaller flap open to pour onto a Tablespoon, and the opposite end flip openinghad a shaker opening with holes
1 tbsp Salt
1 tbsp Black Pepper Ground
3 tbsp White Pepper Ground
½ tsp Basil
½ tsp Oregano
½ tsp Thyme
1 tsp Celery salt
1 tsp Ginger powder
1 tsp Mustard powder
2 tsp Garlic powder
4 tsp Paprika
5 Tablespoons plus 10.5 teaspoon Spice and Herbs
If you calculate out the other All teaspoons or All Tablespoons
15.5 tbsp or 15.5 teaspoon depends on what you feel the T’s represented
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Post by flg on Mar 10, 2022 2:06:53 GMT 1
If you do it that way and say pepper is in tablespoons. And just say the recipe was for 2 cups AP flour. That works out to around 250g. White pepper will be around 21.6 grams. And Black Pepper 6.3 grams. For a pepper total of approx 27.9 grams into 250grams of flour.
Right now in the recipes floating around on this an Ken's forums. I am one of the few people to move to 6 grams pepper into 200g flour. And some folks say I may be too high. I can tell you, I may NOT be perfect. But I can also say scaled into 200g flour, around 20g pepper is too much.
If anything that whole recipe needs to be thought of in teaspoons. It's the only way to make sense of it. Regardless of how recipes were written in the 1940's.
Cook with 20g pepper into 200g flour and I think it puts this too bed.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Mar 10, 2022 2:29:10 GMT 1
Its a Ton of Pepper I agree
I will say that Pepper also In different Grinds
Butcher Grind Coarse and Medium plus some Fine Does change the High amount into a less Powder Stroke then ALL fines Powder.
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Post by flg on Mar 10, 2022 2:32:48 GMT 1
Its a Ton of Pepper I agree I will say that Pepper also In different Grinds Butcher Grind Coarse and Medium plus some Fine Does change the High amount into a less Powder Stroke then ALL fines Powder. It certainly does for sure |
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Post by Silver on Mar 10, 2022 11:32:35 GMT 1
In one post I had presented the teaspoon theory and I think I may have posted approx weights doing it that way Ledington's, when both scaled to 200 grams of flour and converted from volume to weight measure, and when presuming that 'Ts' uniformly means teaspoons, and when corrected for Salt, should look very much like this: 200 g. Cake Flour 28.0g. Salt 6.46g. Sweet Paprika 5.20g. White Pepper 1.75g. Black Pepper 1.54g. Dried Mustard 1.38g. Ground Ginger 0.96g. Celery Seed 0.81g. Garlic Powder 0.54g. Thyme 0.54g. Sweet Basil 0.44g. Sage 0.38g. Marjoram It seems to be a very doable and workable recipe when presented this way. Short version: It has potential. But in the past I have speculated that in order to both supply adequate Eugenol and suppress any likelihood of burning the crust due to the presence of way too much Paprika the weights for Sweet Basil and Sweet Paprika should be reversed. I believe the recipe was effectively coded by reversing these two. Thus Ledington's decoded appears as follows (plus with the bonus of added MSG): 200 g. Cake Flour 28.0g. Salt 7.50g. MSG 6.46g. Sweet Basil 5.20g. White Pepper 1.75g. Black Pepper 1.54g. Dried Mustard 1.38g. Ground Ginger 0.96g. Celery Seed 0.81g. Garlic Powder 0.54g. Thyme 0.54g. Sweet Paprika 0.44g. Sage 0.38g. Marjoram A key to assist in this decoding is that Paprika appears (randomly, or is it by intent?) as item #3 in Ledington's, and Basil appears (randomly, or is it by intent?) as item #8. Whereas 3 + 8 = 11 What are the odds that these two ingredients were randomly placed in position 3 and position 8? |
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Post by Silver on Mar 10, 2022 12:49:32 GMT 1
I find it interesting that Ledington's ratio of white to black pepper is essentially 75% White and 25% Black Pepper (or 3:1) by weight.
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