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Post by Silver on Jan 29, 2022 15:06:23 GMT 1
deepfriednew101 Silver I agree that the licorice flavor is in the recipe, it was a big leap forward when Ken started adding it to his recipes but imo it should be added in small quantities so that it shouldn't stand out on its own. Its such a powerful spice. Would fennel, caraway, or anise seed be a better choice I wonder? cfc They are certainly worth a shot, but (if you are trying to comply with the 26 Oz. bag) their requisite quantities will rob from other H&S to a greater degree than will Star-Anise. |
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Post by Silver on Jan 29, 2022 15:26:50 GMT 1
deepfriednew101 Silver I agree that the licorice flavor is in the recipe, it was a big leap forward when Ken started adding it to his recipes but imo it should be added in small quantities so that it shouldn't stand out on its own. Its such a powerful spice. Would fennel, caraway, or anise seed be a better choice I wonder? cfc When I added 0.15 grams of freshly ground Star-Anise (straight from a freshly opened package) to the only 200 grams of flour based recipe in which I tried it the licorice taste was over-dominant and cloying. I can't fathom using the quantities that Ken uses. It would be inedible. Perhaps his Star-Anise is old and worn out. On Glen and Friends, Glen seems to have been rather similarly immediately repulsed when tasting one of Ken's recipes. You can see it on his face, and hear it in his rapid fire negative comments (which he then quickly attempted to retract). I've never once heard of anyone wincing in agony from licorice when eating KFC. Given Glen's revulsion, coupled with the remaining ingredients in Ken's various of recipes being mainstream nornal, I can't see where anything else present would have caused his immediate rejection. |
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Post by crazyforchicken on Jan 29, 2022 15:32:46 GMT 1
Silver Adherence to the 26 oz bag is acting like a governor to the research imo. From all the info posted about the use of extracts I don't think we should limit ourselves by that. deepfriednew101 I believe has spoken to this many times and he appears to be quite knowledgeable about KFC history, imo. Are you limiting your research to the 26 oz bag? cfc
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Post by flg on Jan 29, 2022 15:44:14 GMT 1
If it was Anise, I tend to think it would be more probable that anise seed was used.
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Post by Silver on Jan 29, 2022 16:39:48 GMT 1
Silver Adherence to the 26 oz bag is acting like a governor to the research imo. From all the info posted about the use of extracts I don't think we should limit ourselves by that. deepfriednew101 I believe has spoken to this many times and he appears to be quite knowledgeable about KFC history, imo. Are you limiting your research to the 26 oz bag? cfc I would agree with your logic except that my best tasting recipes have all tended to be those adhering to the 26 ounce bag. No, I'm not limiting myself, but the results based evidence is leading me in that direction. |
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Post by crazyforchicken on Jan 29, 2022 16:55:09 GMT 1
Which of your recipes do you consider the best? Which should I try?
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Post by Silver on Jan 29, 2022 17:04:31 GMT 1
Which of your recipes do you consider the best? Which should I try? cfc My clear stand-out best recipe to date has been my cooked recipe #4: 190 g. Cake Flour + 5g. Dextrose + 5g. Maltodextrin 30.0g. Salt 15.0g. MSG 3.00g. White Pepper 1.10g. Fine Ground Black Pepper 1.10g. Coarse Ground Black Pepper 0.65g. Allspice 0.60g. Coriander 0.55g. Ginger 0.50g. Tones Chili Powder 0.45g. Celery Seeds 0.40g. Sage 0.35g. Thyme 0.30g. Savory 0.25g. Marjoram 0.20g. Dried Orange Zest Grind everything from the Salt on down, sans for the coarse black pepper. Preferably choose a 'fryer' chicken weighing not more than 3.75 Lbs. fully dressed. Do not exceed 325 F. when cooking, due to the sugars. Deep Fry for 13-1/2 minutes at 300-325 F. I do not brine my chicken. Use less salt if you do. |
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Post by Silver on Jan 29, 2022 17:25:23 GMT 1
If it matters, my 'as cooked' recipe #4 delivered a lot of the 'note'.
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Post by crazyforchicken on Jan 29, 2022 17:32:21 GMT 1
Silver, Thank you. Some of the ingredients are a little "out of the box" items that most wouldn't have on their shelves, such as dextrose, maltodextrin, "Tones" chili powder, dried orange zest. Does that recipe create the "note" in an appreciable amount? cfc
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Post by Silver on Jan 29, 2022 17:43:12 GMT 1
Silver , Thank you. Some of the ingredients are a little "out of the box" items that most wouldn't have on their shelves, such as dextrose, maltodextrin, "Tones" chili powder, dried orange zest. Does that recipe create the "note" in an appreciable amount? cfc Dextrose and Maltodextrin powder are staple items at any local home brewing supplies store. If you live in the USA, then Tones should be available in many box stores. The dried Orange Zest may require some looking. I got mine at an Amish bulk foods store, but I've seen it in the big box stores. Yes, I think it delivers on the note. Not as fully as for the real thing, but close (and it tastes better than KFC_OR). But if you want to make the world's most simple yet delicious deep fried chicken try this as a starter. You may not ever need to go beyond it. 200 g. Cake Flour 27.0g. Salt 15.0g. MSG 5.00g. White Pepper (or 3 grams white and 2 grams black) 3.75g. Celery Seed |
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