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Post by deepfriednew101 on Mar 28, 2022 15:35:45 GMT 1
IF you read some FDA rules it even suggest that in cases processors ONLY need to post the most common ingredient or heaviest ingredient on a list and NOT the word poultry seasoning (some countries rules)
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Post by Silver on Mar 28, 2022 16:06:50 GMT 1
SILVER Great recipe MY QUESTION to everyone ? what if someone made a recipe with 18 or 19 Ingredient's and it was a perfect match and aroma to the KFC old or new ? Would you NOT use the recipe it because it does NOT have 11 Spices and Herbs ? THE NEW AGE KFC has More then 11 Chemicals and Additives in the ingredient list LMAO Thanks for the 'mega-kitchen sink recipe' complement deepfriednew101! I wouldn't argue with the repeated use of any recipe that evolves a perfect match (including aroma) to KFC_OR (old or new), even if it had 30+ ingredients. I'm presently all for multi-faceted degrees of recipe freedom wherever derived. I will admit to going through a "bag" phase that destroys such degrees of freedom. But I'm moving away from such punishing restriction. If anything, I'd say that the 'other' forum seems more interested in restricting recipe freedom.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Mar 28, 2022 16:58:11 GMT 1
I understand the Point people want to Stay to the 11 Spices and Herbs.
I Get that Point.
The Spices and Herbs have changed so Drastically since 1939. I suggest making ANY OLD recipe and see the OUT COME or watch Glen and Friend who has and in almost EVERY case they Do Not have Great results or perfect results and they comment it needs something ?
ANY ONE WHO thinks the spices HAVE NOT CHANGED need a Couch visit and consult. It has been NOTED on 60 Minutes, W-5, Market Place about what spice companies have done and how they have watered down spice for Profit.
I have BEEN told and accused that MY theory my teaching my input suggest NO ONE CAN MAKE THE OR KFC
I say that's NOT true. KFC holds the Rule Book to does your recipe MATCH THE 11 Spices and Herbs in the Vault. They can move the Goal Post continually and say OH YOU DID NOT USE certain listed spice Tellicherry Peppercorn you used Ground Tellicherry you did not used Ground Jamaican Ginger
I DRIVE THIS POINT HOME WHO CARES about what you use as long as you GET GREAT CHICKEN.
It seems Ken and other Forums care about 26oz. Bags
I only suggest 100% values which can be based on 26 40ounce Bags and 5Lbs from 1939.
as for Salt start with 2lbs and add more if you want it
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Post by Silver on Apr 2, 2022 12:12:24 GMT 1
My radical thought for the day is:
What if CHS never actually stated that the Original Recipe's 11 H&S was comprised of ingredients that are to be found within the average homes spice collection?
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Apr 2, 2022 14:42:38 GMT 1
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Post by Silver on Apr 3, 2022 17:04:25 GMT 1
My radical thought for the day is: If (as per Winston Shelton) it's all supposed to add up to 100 (grams or ounces), and if 48 ounces is added separately, with this being as 3 Lbs. of Salt, and with (per Shelton) this Salt being part of the 100, then 100 - 48 = 52 We know from pictures that the powdered milk and egg mixture weighs 18 ounces, and in deepfriednew101's schema this might be a fit for "18" within his sequence, but: 52 - 18 = 34 34 does not equal 26, 32, or 40 Hmmmm?
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Apr 3, 2022 17:41:02 GMT 1
REMEMBER there is always a 2% variance that Manufacture Processor use in SOME calculation's
so there is YES a 32oz bag which can weight under law 32.5 or 31.5ish etc
and a 25lbs bag or flour which can weigh 24.5 or 25.5 and still fall under the 25Lbs legal weigh Law.
This is why I say who the HELL needs a .003 gram scale for cooking YOU may find a .003 to a .008 taste with a Garlic Powder of Chili Powder BUT it anti gona do crap with a Parsley or Mild Herbs Leaf
ANYONE who is and has been involved in the Processing and manufacturing of FOOD and FOOD Science Knows that 99 -101 % still falls within acceptable range
99X is the example of it and HE OPENLY OPENLY poked fun at KFC NEW AGE and said it WILL always and ONLY BE 99% KFC could NOT Win a COURT case at 99%. BUT KFC NEW AGE could win 100% of a Court case on Franchise Infringement Rights in the Places where CHS was NOT the Benefactor Prior to Death
CHS Owned Controlling say In Canada, England, Florida, Peter Harmon Had exclusive to Utah, and Montana THEY were at ODDS to 99x over KFC NEW AGE Mix BUT CHS would have WON IN court with ONE aspect NEW AGE changed the ORIGINAL FORUMAL AND had Bill S as the expert and Had BAGS of the changed spices from Winston and Collectomatic Engineers
CHS Contract to Brown and Massey DID NOT ALLOW A change of HIS ORIGINAL recipes
after death they did not have a BIG DOG to fight they had, other avenue to win on being a 1966 court case which says NO more then 5 items with salt pepper MSG.
they could NOT use Franchise Agreement argument with CHS in a POKER GAME where CHS had the ALL ACES THE ORIGINAL SALES CONTRACT CHS won 3 COURT CASES against Brown and Massey for 3 Million Dollars and Massey still COULD NOT FIRE THE Colonel.
Massey want to Fire the Colonel and could NOT, or breached the Original sale Contract where CHS was the Living paid advertisement of the BRAND. After death that contract was NOT a issue NEW AGE KFC had to worry about.
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Post by Silver on Apr 7, 2022 12:39:57 GMT 1
My radical thought for the day is:
In the Winston Shelton story of 100 grams as told within a CHS biography, Winston admits that legal council advised him that “I didn’t want that recipe.”
With this in mind, why would he even mention to the books author that he was given the recipe such that his story would wind up in print? And worse, why would he offer tidbits of secret information such as 20, 10, 13 and 100?
Might Winston have just been rambling nonsense to the author and not actually revealing anything with relevance to reality?
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Apr 7, 2022 13:01:29 GMT 1
IF you TAKE the Claudia Recipe or Eula recipe and Do the Match your Numbers will Hit almost identical numbers as 20, 13, 10 etc etc etc
Remember back in the Day when world were spoken to Reporters and Writers the Word never Got around Social Media like today where what said and told 1 minute is around the World in under 3 Minutes and Changed 5 times before it made it around the World.
Back in the Old Days Print was regional and Local New Papers and Books were also More only with-in a Country NOT WORLD WIDE HEADLINES instantly.
People in those Days spoke there word. Many People who knew CHS also did not hold back what was said and in realty never expected the MASS FOLLOWING of KFC to occur and never expected the CHICKEN WING NUTS WE ARE to pick apart every dotted I and Crossed T. that has even been printed or shown.
Also This has been A Proven Part about CHS and Many other MEN of the Day like Shelton and others BUT CHS took the Cake. CHS at a KFC major accomplishment Night ceremony for KFC with almost 650 Franchise Owners Brown & Massey CHS Tore a strip off Brown and Massy and the NEW AGE KFC way of doing things and what they were doing wrong serving second grade Crap. MASSEY went off the handle (THE STORY has been told by BROWN at many events)
Brown knew he could NOT Fire CHS THE CONTRACT to BROWN & MASSEY Guarantee NOT TO CHANGE the ORIGINAL RECIPE. the Colonel would have cleaned there CLOCK in a Law Suit on that POINT.
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Post by Silver on Apr 7, 2022 13:08:08 GMT 1
deepfriednew101, do you think the "Ts" quantity designator as seen within the Ledington recipe stands for tablespoons? I can't imagine it meaning TBSP for some ingredients and TSP for others within the same recipe.
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