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Post by Silver on Sept 4, 2021 21:57:37 GMT 1
Silver, based on what you posted. I'll throw a 4th in where I use Allspice and clove. I'll go back and see what percent you wanted to add of clove to allspice I would probably base it upon your typical grams for Allspice. Then add 2/3 of that amount as Allspice and 1/3 of that amount as Clove. For example: 0.65 grams of initial Allspice would translate to 0.43 grams Allspice plus 0.22 grams of Clove. |
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Sept 5, 2021 4:32:15 GMT 1
The Millions of view are waiting for your results
You are doing great work with testing
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Post by flg on Sept 5, 2021 13:04:24 GMT 1
Teaser review:
1) 1 Part Cinnamon + 1 Part Nutmeg + 1 Part Clove - Make me hungry for french toast for breakfast
The Cinnamon is overpowering to me. Therefore it also eliminates this one too
2) 1 Part Cinnamon + 1/2 part Nutmeg + 1/2 Part Clove
I'll let the taste buds settle down and try the next couple. I may as well round out my testing by trying 1/2 nutmeg + 1/2 Cloves
Allspice and Nutmeg melding now
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Post by Silver on Sept 5, 2021 13:23:45 GMT 1
It is beginning to look like the flavor of cinnamon must be reduced whereby to better capture the "note" of KFC_OR. This means reducing Allspice and back-adding clove and nutmeg, or simply eliminating Allspice and replacing it with nutmeg and clove. With that in mind, this is beginning to look like my nest attempt:  |
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Post by Silver on Sept 5, 2021 13:27:37 GMT 1
Perhaps Glen and Friends "Canadian Source" was right all along, and Grace's had it wrong. The Canadian source had Savory in the spot where Grace's has Allspice. And it's either one or the other....
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Post by Silver on Sept 5, 2021 13:31:52 GMT 1
nest attempt = next attempt
I don't understand why there is no editing function activated for this forum. Perhaps a moderator or the administrator may consider activating the editor.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Sept 5, 2021 17:24:17 GMT 1
I like your Recipe BUT I think the amount of Spice is LOW
if I did my adding correct its 9 Gram of spice to 200 Gram of Flour ?
which would make it a 4.5% rate of spice to Flour ?
If I'm correct please correct my MATH?
if you Watch ANY Video that KFC shows mixing the Flour / Spice / Salt / Milk n Egg powder The Salt Box is equal to the Spice Bag size
or the Spice is More then the Salt ? ?
Watch the unwrapped Video of KFC and Watch them pour the Spices and then watch them pour the Spice Bag MIX compare in your evaluation what is witnessed
Only my suggestion
YOUR items look Great
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Post by flg on Sept 5, 2021 18:06:47 GMT 1
So here is where I stand after the 4 experiments and a wild card test.
Disclaimer:
I know some folks are stuck on the magical ingredient being Star Anise and they may be 100% correct. Because I have never tried it, I can not say it isn't the thing I am missing. I have never owned, cooked with or knowingly (maybe KFC) tried it. I just have a hard time with fitting it in with CHS saying it's ingredients everyone has in their kitchen comments he made over the years. But maybe it's the one he held back. Or I am the only one that doesn't have it in stock.
I mixed the various tests up. I smelt each one and then wet a finger dusted the sample on good and tasted it. Not scientific at all. I had to wait sometimes longer than I would have thought to get the flavor out of my palette. I was looking for balance, not over powered in any area and something I could taste fitting. A couple combinations were pretty nasty TBH.
For my ingredients the one I liked the best was 1 part Allspice to 1/2 part Clove. I don't think you would want the clove ratio any higher. I tried it a 1/3 and felt it needed more. All that being said, I'll have to cook it to see if the profile fits and if a tweak needs to be made. In that 1/3 to 1/2 is in the ballpark for this test.
But I'd say if Cinnamon or Nutmeg are there, they very small "pinches". They both get out of control too quickly and not in good ways.
I'm sticking with Allspice and clove for now until I decide to cross over the magical Star Anise bridge.
I'll start working up a recipe for the next cook. From my notes 0.5g more pepper (I think Black). Switch back to Cayenne from Chili Powder for now. Get the Allspice/Clove ratio included. The onion powder will go for now. I don't think it helped or hindered. Just took up space. And, even though I should stay the course, I am going to use 13g into 125-150g just haven't settled on which one I try first. Getting the right flavor profile and backing down the overall punch is easier in my mind than barely tasting ingredients and having to "guessing" too much.
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Post by Silver on Sept 5, 2021 18:07:50 GMT 1
deepfriednew101, using my recipe for the ingredients list, and holding it to 200 grams of flour, what would you recommend as to the gram quantities for each herb and spice?
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Post by Silver on Sept 5, 2021 18:12:31 GMT 1
Boiling in oil certainly must change the perceived intensity for each herb and spice. Which flavors stay, and which are diminished (or the opposite, enhanced) when cooking? And which outright vanish? I doubt that you can directly correlate a bare/uncooked herbs and spices taste test to actual deep frying.
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