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Post by flg on Aug 1, 2023 14:00:17 GMT 1
Should mention zero anise taste. Not that I remember ever having it. But it doesn’t exist in the modern Canadian KFC today. I can see why a particular person on the other forum. Uses like 0.065 g or some other microscopic amounts of herbs. As they clearly state they are cloning modern KFC. I think total herbs was likely not much anyway. Spices were heavier by far. I bounce in the 1.25g in 200g flour in herbs. I have a recipe I am gonna meld soon with less even. 1g approx This hearkens me back to the split batch I made not long ago where one half had the 200 grams of flour equivalent of 0.20 grams of Star Anise, and the other half had zero Star Anise.
My wife vastly preferred the "more rounded and balanced flavor" of the Star Anise including half, and stated that she could not detect any hint of licorice within it.
I detected a disgusting background of licorice instantly, and thereby preferred the half with zero licorice.
Neither my wife or I can detect any hint of licorice when 0.50 grams of Anise Seed are added to a recipe built upon a base of 200 grams of flour.
I mentioned before I am the same way with cinnamon. i can taste it at real small levels it pops out to me. When I had the reheated KFC and found a couple small areas with actual flavor. Allspice jumped out to me. And then on another sample I almost said wait cinnamon but tried again and could taste that "darker" taste of allspice.
The whole crime in this is how a company could devalue the real reason it was so so popular back in the day. I get costs and ROI but when it is your main product. You shouldn't do this to it. I can't help but think that had they stopped with changes even early 80's it would have survived much better. For our family it went from the first choice of fast food to the last.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Aug 1, 2023 14:01:18 GMT 1
FYI
Star Anise Has No place in KFC Original Recipe
Do Not waste Your time Placing it in the Recipe. It is NOT in the Recipe Guarantee
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Post by Silver on Aug 1, 2023 14:25:16 GMT 1
FYI Star Anise Has No place in KFC Original Recipe Do Not waste Your time Placing it in the Recipe. It is NOT in the Recipe Guarantee Highly likely to be nigh-on certifiably true (given circa 1939), but it can be made to work if held to about 0.125 grams within a recipe built upon a base of 200 grams of Pastry Flour.
It may well be that Star Anise has as much as 4 times as much Anethole oil within it, gram for gram, as does Anise Seed.
As an aside: Was 5-Spice Powder available circa 1939? There is Star Anise in 5-Spice Powder.
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Post by Silver on Aug 1, 2023 14:30:17 GMT 1
5-Spice Powder seems to be highly unexplored as an ingredient when attempting to clone KFC OR. It's a big hit in Jolibee Chickenjoy, so it can't hurt trying it. As an aside: The girl who is highly allergic to Anethole oil better never attempt eating Jolibee Chickenjoy.
As another aside: The KFC rep told the Settles that their recipe found in the basement of a home they purchased from CHS was about 5 ingredients short.
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Post by flg on Aug 1, 2023 14:42:22 GMT 1
5-Spice Powder seems to be highly unexplored as an ingredient when attempting to clone KFC OR. It's a big hit in Jolibee Chickenjoy, so it can't hurt trying it. As an aside: The girl who is highly allergic to Anethole oil better never attempt eating Jolibee Chickenjoy.
As another aside: The KFC rep told the Settles that their recipe found in the basement of a home they purchased from CHS was about 5 ingredients short.
Haven't put a real effort in it. But on a few basic searches I haven't seen any real vintage tins.
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Post by Silver on Aug 1, 2023 14:56:44 GMT 1
Might 5-Spice Powder be the 'eureka' ingredient that CHS tossed into his recipe for the infamous circa 1954 boat trip?
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Aug 1, 2023 15:28:11 GMT 1
5-Spices has a To High of a Asian Flare Flavor that is NOT in KFC, unless you reconstruct the ingredients BUT as a Base the 5 Ingredient's are to over powering overall
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Post by Silver on Aug 1, 2023 15:47:27 GMT 1
5-Spices has a To High of a Asian Flare Flavor that is NOT in KFC, unless you reconstruct the ingredients BUT as a Base the 5 Ingredient's are to over powering overall Wouldn't the matter as to 5-Spice Powder being overpowering or not be associated with the quantity added? |
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Aug 2, 2023 4:45:44 GMT 1
5 Spice was NOT a run of the mill Pantry item in 1939 and rare if any was found in that Time period they ONLY 5 spice item at that time was pumpkin and Apple or Pastry Spice.
as for 1 of the 11 Spices and Herbs Use it if you want it's a free country just like using a Vegetable Garlic powder which is NOT a Herb or a Spice
The Difference with Garlic powder is it can be part of the Recipe and NOT One of the 11 herbs and Spices. There is NO record which shows that there is ONLY 11 Herbs and Spices in the secret seasoning? We know the least amount there should be is 11 Herbs and Spices.
Send K.F.C. a Direct letter asking them if there are ONLY 11 items in the secret recipe ? YOU might get a surprise of the Answer
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2023 9:36:43 GMT 1
There is NO record which shows that there is ONLY 11 Herbs and Spices in the secret seasoning? We know the least amount there should be is 11 Herbs and Spices. Where is the record which shows that there must be more than 11 Herbs and Spices in the secret seasoning? Record you said. Not stories etc. Please provide and you can end this discussion once for all, wouldn't that be great? Also, could you please stop asking people to write or call KFC, the court or the FDA? Did you know that repetition is an integral part of brainwashing techniques? (Illusory truth effect). The Roman statesman Cato closed each of his speeches with a call to destroy Carthage ("Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam"), knowing that the repetition would breed agreement. Napoleon reportedly "said that there is only one figure in rhetoric of serious importance, namely, repetition", whereby a repeated affirmation fixes itself in the mind "in such a way that it is accepted in the end as a demonstrated truth". |
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