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Post by deepfriednew101 on Nov 23, 2022 18:52:16 GMT 1
I was asked what I felt was the 1 BIGGEST mistake people Make when making the 11 Spices and Herbs.
I will say THIS and it comes from Dealing with ALL The Large Spice Wholesales Companies and Blending Tons of spices for Catering and BBQ
Do NOT DO NOT put ALL your 11 SPICES and HERBS into a Magic Bullet, Blender, Coffee Grinder, Spice Grinder High Speed, or any High speed Mixer and BLEND THEM together.
When you High Speed Bleed ALL the spices together and then Get warm the Over Powering Pepper Black and White and the Sage, Oregano ETC ETC will GET over powdered and Over Infused by the Power House Spices.
EVERY major spice company Adds the individual items into a tumble Mixer Slow speed of Mix the spices in Layers into the batch and sift slow together NOT HIGH SPEED
Claudia mix the spices into a Plastic Lug originally and mixed it by Hand
CHS used a Hobart Mixer and then a Cement Mixer when they were Blending Drums of Spices NEVER a BLENDER.
What Flavor you loose from the delicate spices and less Powerful spices will NEVER be found in a mix that was HIGH speed Blended. It all becomes a Large Pepper Flavored Spices.
Pulse you individual items it you need to in a Magic Bullet, Blender, Spice Grinder ETC ETC, then pour it into a Bowl Grind the next spice and so on and so on individual Then Clean your grinder with Salt and Pulverize your Salt to clean the Grinder and dump the salt into the Flour.
Then the Spices need to be added to the Flour and Sifted two to 3 Times
OVER mechanicalizing spices just looses to much of the Flavors
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Nov 23, 2022 21:17:41 GMT 1
Post by Silver on Nov 23, 2022 21:17:41 GMT 1
I grind in a coffee grinder, but only for a few seconds. I wonder how much herb and spice flavor I'm losing?
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Nov 24, 2022 1:02:13 GMT 1
From ALL our High speed Grinding to mix ALL the spices it just makes a Pepper Mix.
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Post by Chickenman on Nov 24, 2022 2:27:17 GMT 1
Another thing people don't realize is how important the freshness of the herbs/spices you use is. The herb itself isn't the flavour, but the carrier of those oils which give you the flavour. Once that herb loses most of it's flavour, it is just plant matter. And if you don't maintain the freshness by throwing out old stock the ratio of your recipe will always be changing as the flavour diminishes.
At home we do not cook enough chicken to be using up all the herbs/spices while they are still fresh, so you simply have to throw out all of your herbs/spices which seems like a waste, but it's what you gotta do if you are serious about cracking the recipe. By the time i have to throw out my allspice for example, i am throwing out atleast 80% of it because i simply didn't cook enough chicken to use it all up while it was still fresh. This is also why i prefer to buy whole spices and grind fresh.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Nov 24, 2022 14:12:37 GMT 1
in our use when Spices and Herbs are getting older we Add some fresh to the Old or add more old spice to compensate for the weakness it does NOT go for waisted
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Nov 24, 2022 18:17:02 GMT 1
In reference to Old Recipes that are from the 1930's and 1940's
We have found that the Recipes need to be modified for the 2022 Spices and herbs that are available.
It has been Proven BY 60 Minutes, Market Place, and other Investigative Journalist and Television shows That the Majority of Current spices are containing 20% of Fillers compared to Decades ago.
In our Testing and Trial with Butchering and Sausage making we have had to alter ALL our 50 and 60 years old recipes.
for easy math we increase OLD recipes 25% and then Test them ALL if we need to modify it then we modify it BUT principally 25% is easy math and quick refeence
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Post by Silver on Nov 24, 2022 18:47:01 GMT 1
for easy math we increase OLD recipes 25% and then Test them ALL if we need to modify it then we modify it BUT principally 25% is easy math and quick reference That seems likely to be good advice for products like 99-X also. Bump it up ~25%. For 200 grams of Flour add 16 grams instead of 13 grams.
Edit: On the other forum a number of people have mentioned that Ken's recipes (when scaled to 200 grams of flour) really begin to taste good when 16 grams are added instead of 13.
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Nov 24, 2022 21:40:26 GMT 1
Post by deepfriednew101 on Nov 24, 2022 21:40:26 GMT 1
In any private test with 99x over decades NOW the amount recommended on the Label is UNDER what is needed for a Better Flavored KFC style chicken.
In our trial with 99x we have increase the 99X and extra MSG. we have increased it 20% more 99x and 1/4 teaspoon of Accent -MSG
on some last attempts we added 20% more 99x and added Magic Strap instead of MSG (located in Asian Stores 10 packages for $2.99 Canadian) Great results
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Nov 24, 2022 21:43:46 GMT 1
Spelling Error above Magic Sarap
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Nov 24, 2022 22:15:20 GMT 1
Post by deepfriednew101 on Nov 24, 2022 22:15:20 GMT 1
In the Magic Sarap there is a Chicken Fat which adds Flavor that you don't get from just MSG
No I'm NOT thinking this was a Original Item used BUT as for a cross section of Ingredients - They would have possibly been in the Original in some way. The chicken fat would have been infused into the Oil, Shortening, Lard, Fat ETC, ETC, ETC
I will maintain that what ever Oil, Cooking Shortening YOU are using ONE needs to determine are you loosing Flavor or Gaining Flavor from it.
In our Next attempt we are going to Blend Crisco and Peanut Oil, sesame seed oil - Prior to use we are going to use whole spices in a tea infuser and warm the Whole Spices and Herbs for 2 hours in the Oils to infuse the shortening base.
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