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Post by Silver on Sept 22, 2022 10:33:04 GMT 1
If I had to guess as to what Mexican Oregano tastes like, whereby to whip up a workable on the fly substitute, my initial guess would look like a ground blend of this (as percent by weight):
50% Oregano
15% Thyme
15% Summer Savory
10% Yellow Mustard Seed
5% Dried Mint Leaves
5% Dried Dill Weed
Edit: Others are welcome to provide their substitution guess.
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Post by Silver on Sept 22, 2022 12:16:22 GMT 1
After some additional thinking on this:
50% Oregano
20% Thyme
10% Sage
5% Yellow Mustard Seed
5% Dried Mint Leaves
5% Dried Dill Weed
5% Lemon Zest
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Sept 22, 2022 16:38:37 GMT 1
Going to have to Give your mix a Try
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Post by smallgree on Sept 22, 2022 17:00:19 GMT 1
Down here, I just buy Mexican oregano at the numerous Mexican markets. There is a shortage though. I am high on Mexican oregano for many of the things I make.
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Post by Silver on Sept 22, 2022 17:18:38 GMT 1
Down here, I just buy Mexican oregano at the numerous Mexican markets. There is a shortage though. I am high on Mexican oregano for many of the things I make. Have you tried in in a deep fried chicken seasoning mix recipe yet? |
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Post by smallgree on Sept 22, 2022 19:18:32 GMT 1
Yes. But I think the herbs are a combined taste, as in Italian Seasoning, Herbes de Provence, or Poultry seasoning. I believe the Corp. separated the herbs into individual elements to avoid legal suits, and eventually to fill the 11 vials. So Mexican oregano, alone, is not imperative. I believe that elements that enhance the qualities of the peppercorns are the keys to the note. It is one note, not several. If the KFC OR was dominated by the peppercorns, salt and msg, then the other elements are just secondary. If you miss the base recipe, then the other elements are just lost in the equation.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Sept 22, 2022 19:45:32 GMT 1
Pure Oregano / Mexican Sage in a Fine Fine Powder has a Very powerful aroma more then a more fibered medium grind.  |
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Post by Silver on Sept 22, 2022 20:24:56 GMT 1
I've got real Mexican Oregano. I can't wait to give it a try in a chicken coating recipe. But Recipe #19 must wait for Recipe #18, plus the obligatory couple weeks of staying away from deep frying whereby to allow sufficient time for my wife to settle down enough for me to attempt another go at such things.
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Post by maceme on Sept 22, 2022 22:15:19 GMT 1
Yes. But I think the herbs are a combined taste, as in Italian Seasoning, Herbes de Provence, or Poultry seasoning. I believe the Corp. separated the herbs into individual elements to avoid legal suits, and eventually to fill the 11 vials. So Mexican oregano, alone, is not imperative. I believe that elements that enhance the qualities of the peppercorns are the keys to the note. It is one note, not several. If the KFC OR was dominated by the peppercorns, salt and msg, then the other elements are just secondary. If you miss the base recipe, then the other elements are just lost in the equation. I think KFC or any smart rapidly growing business would separate any blended ingredients not for legal reasons, but to protect their own supply chain integrity. I am not aware of a problem with incorporation of a publicly available branded blend within your own product line - it is rare to have true vertical integration. In many industries one builds systems one from branded “sub-assemblies” of some type, and in my experience, unless those manufacturers are licensing the product, as is often done with software, vs. just selling it, as is done with hardware and food, there is usually no control over its subsequent use, once sold. This concept of legal jeopardy for using Sexton or Durkee poultry seasoning for example has been mentioned several times and I just don’t get the legal basis for it. If you don’t separate and develop your own individually source-able items, you are at the mercy and whim of any changes that sole supplier might make, not to mention that you lack control of the blend balance, pricing leverage, and have to deal with any ingredient or quality changes the upstream supplier might choose to make. So in my view it is just a bad business practice not to separate the blends, and was probably done by the early 1960’s if not before. If it wasn’t done by then, certainly Brown would have made it happen a few years later. |
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Post by deepfriednew101 on Sept 22, 2022 22:38:13 GMT 1
Brown & Massey were faced with Spice & Herb issues. In there Era Time Period there were more issues with Spice Shortage due to weather related crop devastation and the Increased Amounts needed for the Fast Food and Ready made food industry explosion of demand. CHS Did not have that issue CHS issue was Distribution Via Rail he was using.
2020, 2021, 2022 have been some of the Worlds largest supply chain industry shortage and supply availability required.
You may have NOT noticed it at a local small quantity requirement purchasing 50 gram size bottles or smaller 2Lbs size spice quantities BUT in larger volume at wholesale prices. IT's crazy the shortage issue.
There have been more major Name Brand Products changing there recipes and as they say IMPROVING the taste LMAO. changing due to shortage issue and Higher cost for what's available.
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