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Post by deepfriednew101 on May 30, 2023 15:59:35 GMT 1
I will post this message IF any one has Questions I will ONLY answer them in Private and NOT on the Open Forum
I Will SHUT UP
Final Tip
100% of 11 Herbs and Spices are required to Make Original Recipe Which Means the 11 Herbs and Spices need to add up to 100g or 50g or 25g depending on the Volume of Flour and Salt
Do NOT add M.S.G. or Salt into the 100g of 11 Herbs and Spices of use ONLY 60g of Herbs and Spices because you added in 40g of salt and M.S.G. to 60g of 11 Herbs and Spices making 13 items add up to 100g or 1/2 volume been 50g.
Do not dilute the Herbs and Spices
The M.S.G. or salt in ANY KFC NEW AGE is added to the 100% of 11 Herbs and Spices NOT part of the 100% There is a BIG difference.
11 Herbs and Spices made to a 1/2 recipe of 50g is PERFECT TO DO and add the extra items after is acceptable
Do NOT dilute the 100% of the 11 essential Herbs and Spices
Anyone who sends messages in private I will reply in Private
The information on the Hand written recipes will remain SHUT UP until a Date of the recipe is determined
Thank you and Best of Luck with the Public Posting.
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Post by Silver on May 30, 2023 16:31:48 GMT 1
Any weight amount of the 11 (or whatever) Herbs and Spices inherently represents 100% of the Herbs and Spices that one decides to add.
If any known 'bag' size sums to either 26 Oz., or 32 Oz, or 40 Oz., it contains (per the label) MSG and some fraction of the overall Salt. The remaining Salt and the Flour are added external to the seasoning 'bag'.
A 26 Oz. seasoning 'bag' added to 25 Lbs. of Flour scales directly to 13 grams of seasoning (plus MSG and some fraction of the overall Salt) added to 200 grams of Flour.
A 32 Oz. seasoning 'bag' added to 25 Lbs. of Flour scales directly to 16 grams of seasoning (plus MSG and some fraction of the overall Salt) added to 200 grams of Flour.
A 40 Oz. seasoning 'bag' added to 25 Lbs. of Flour scales directly to 20 grams of seasoning (plus MSG and some fraction of the overall Salt) added to 200 grams of Flour.
And in each of the above cases the amount of seasoning (plus MSG and some fraction of the overall Salt) is 100% of the seasoning to be added. But 13 grams, 16 grams, or 20 grams (or any other amount of seasoning grams) are up to the Chef. But only 13 grams, 16 grams, and 20 grams scale directly to actual known KFC seasoning bags.
100 Grams = 3.52734 Weight Ounces
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Post by Silver on May 30, 2023 16:44:18 GMT 1
Unless the paper of your handwritten recipe letter had specific of forensic date identification markers added into it when it was manufactured, nailing down a 'firm' date for it will prove difficult. And ditto for the ink.
Handwriting analysis is even more suspect with regard to dating, as people's handwriting style often exhibits little significant variation across the span of most of ones adult lifetime.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on May 30, 2023 17:02:20 GMT 1
Your Incorrect on Both Accounts to the ability they can preform for Time frame of the paper and they can only represent if they think it is a Hand written document of the writer which they are matching the Hand writing will not give a Date.
We already have confirmation that it is a confirmed Hand writing of C.H.S. that's NOT the issue left it's How old is the document.
Which can be determined By paper and Ink.
The document may be damaged if tested and that is the issue we are dealing with do we want the document possibly damaged ?
either way we Know it's C.H.S. to a accuracy of 99% which I'm sure is Not good enough for most.
Like I said I will Just Shut Up until we have a meeting what to do next for age verification?
I know it Cooks Old Fashion Original Style Chicken like the Colonel would have been Proud to serve, 100 times better then KFC NEW AGE.
just mix 11 Herbs and Spices to 100g, 50g or 25g add to suitable Flour amount and top up with M.S.G. and Salt to which ever recipe volume you make 100g or 50g 25g etc. Do Not waist any spices or herbs ?
BUT only mix 11 Herbs and Spices to the 100g, 50g, or 25g
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Post by Silver on May 30, 2023 17:29:57 GMT 1
I wish you the best of luck in dating the recipe document.
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Post by flg on May 30, 2023 17:41:18 GMT 1
Ok what I don’t understand. If you know within a 99% accuracy range. The document was written by CHS. And it appears to you a recipe made for chicken. Why is the date on the document so important to get 100% right?
I certainly would be curious as to a reasonable date range if I had one in my possession. But for me it would be is it pre Pete, post boat trip, or what he sold Brown and Massey. I think looking at the recipe I could make a good judgement call on the first 2 milestones.
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Post by deepfriednew101 on May 30, 2023 21:08:50 GMT 1
I know what year the one was re-wrote that K.F.C. New Age has in the Vault as stated by Brown in conversation; He Did not give New Age K.F.C. the Original copy he got from C.H.S. when Brown and Massey Bought the Franchise.
Brown asked C.H.S. to re-write the recipe for the New Age K.F.C. (Again Only Brown Words) but The Family claims they still have the Original?
I Do Not know how you could make a Judgment call between the first two milestones with the exception of Two Handful of a element. But always interested in theory
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Post by flg on May 30, 2023 21:35:44 GMT 1
So theory only and why I wish I could 100% nail down the boat trip dinner. Which by the way he himself tells two stories. 1 it was for a boat trip at lake Cumberland and he was delivering it in cases. To be eaten on the boat. 2 a boat trip that was coming up to Cumberland falls. Now I looked on the map and those are 2 different areas. Well connected by a sketch Cumberland River. But on goggle map I see no way a boat comes up to Cumberland falls.
What I like about the Cumberland falls story is there was a lodge there capable of handling 200 people eating in a brand new dining room. But the boat trip up to it seems unreasonable.
Anyway
We know in 1952 he franchises with Pete. In 1954 his second major franchisee is added. And by all accounts there is around 6 partnerships by end of 1954. You have advocated for the boat trip to be 1 summer before he sells the cafe in 1956. So that means 1955. After 3 years of selling progressively more out side of his local shop. It’s not all his customers he has been servicing. I think the idea is not all his and perhaps has Pete’s hand print as well. All this to say I lean more and more to MSG. In 1955 he likely got MSG in a 10lb tin. Grabbed a couple handfuls and tossed it in.
Remember theory only you asked for.
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Post by flg on May 30, 2023 21:48:02 GMT 1
So simply I’d look to see if the recipe has MSG and how much of any salt is listed. If some salt and or MSG is mixed in at some point likely after boat trip. Before, I’d guess no MSG and likely just one heaping load of salt. No accounting for the external salt as it was likely a all in recipe early on
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Post by smallgree on May 30, 2023 22:16:33 GMT 1
I'm getting weary about this crap. Reveal what you know or shut your pie hole.
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